Calculating the Lioness' Meal: v_{L}>v_{G}

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In summary, the problem involves a hungry lioness chasing a gazelle with constant velocities and in a straight line. The lioness always directs its velocity towards the gazelle. To calculate when the lioness will eat the gazelle, a function needs to be derived based on the initial positions of the two animals and the direction of the gazelle's speed. This can be done using equations of motion, and the problem can be simplified by assuming the direction of the gazelle's speed is orthogonal to the line connecting their initial positions. The rest frame and polar coordinates can be used to solve the problem, and a helpful thread and resource are provided for further study.
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Petr Mugver
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A hungry lioness runs after a gazelle. [tex]v_{L}>v_{G}[/tex] are the constant magnitudes of the velocities of the two animals. The lioness always directs it's velocity towards the gazelle, the latter always runs in a straight line. Calculate when will the lioness eat the gazelle, as a function of the initial positions of the two animals in the savannah (the horizontal xy plane) and of the direction of the gazelle's speed.
 
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Sorry, I can only solve a similar problem where a cat chases a mouse.

You have to help me out here:

SHOW ME YOUR HOMEWORK SO FAR! :grumpy:
 
  • #3
...it's about 10 years I don't have to do homework, luckily...:rofl:

Anyway...
...in the rest frame of the gazelle, or the mouse, or the thief...
...in plane polar coordinates [tex]r,\alpha[/tex]...
...I found...

[tex]\dot r=-v_L-v_G\cos\alpha[/tex]

[tex]r\dot\alpha=-v_G\sin\alpha[/tex]

Theese should be the equations of motion.
The first one can be replaced by

[tex]v_G\ddot\alpha\sin\alpha+v_L\dot\alpha^2=0[/tex]

But I can't go any further!
 
  • #4
Now, I am unsure as to why polar coordinates would be your salvation here.

I suggest that you first try the following special case:

The direction the gazelle will run in is orthogonal to the line connecting the initial positions of the gazelle and lioness.

Try and set up a set up equations of motion in the ground's rest frame; let for example the gazelle run up along the y-axis.

I'll help you out if you get stuck.
 
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In the rest frame it should be [tex](x_G,y_G)=(0,v_Gt)[/tex] and

[tex]\dot x=\frac{-vx}{[x^2+(v_Gt-y)^2]^{1/2}}[/tex]

[tex]\dot y=\frac{v(v_Gt-y)}{[x^2+(v_Gt-y)^2]^{1/2}}[/tex]

(I suppressed the index L for readability).
I thought this looked awful, that's why I used polar coordinates. But maybe you have got the clue here?

EDIT:

Oh yeah and you can write

[tex]\frac{\dot x}{x}=\frac{\dot y}{y-v_Gt}[/tex]

that looks better, but I still can't solve!
 
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Petr Mugver said:
Oh yeah and you can write

[tex]\frac{\dot x}{x}=\frac{\dot y}{y-v_Gt}[/tex]

that looks better, but I still can't solve!

1. This can be written as:
[tex]x\frac{\dot{y}}{\dot{x}}=(y-v_{G}t)(1)[/tex]

2. Now we have:
[tex]\frac{\dot{y}}{\dot{x}}=\frac{dy}{dx}(2)[/tex]

Now, we need to eliminate "t" from (1)!
Remember that:
[tex]\int_{0}^{t}\sqrt{\dot{x}^{2}+\dot{y}^{2}}dt=v_{L}t[/tex]
The integral, can, however, be rewritten, in terms of an arbitrary x as:
[tex]t=\frac{1}{v_{L}}\int_{x_{0}}^{x}\sqrt{1+(\frac{dy}{dx})^{2}}dx[/tex]
whereby we get:
[tex]\frac{dt}{dx}=\frac{\sqrt{1+(\frac{dy}{dx})^{2}}}{v_{L}}[/tex]

Now, let us differentiate (1) with respect to x:
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}+x\frac{d^{2}y}{dx^{2}}=\frac{dy}{dx}-\frac{v_{G}}{v_{L}}\sqrt{1+(\frac{dy}{dx})^{2}}[/tex]
which is, at first a separable equation for the variable Y=dy/dx:
[tex]x\frac{dY}{dx}=-\frac{v_{G}}{v_{L}}\sqrt{1+Y^{2}}[/tex]
 
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What is "Calculating the Lioness' Meal: v_{L}>v_{G}"?

"Calculating the Lioness' Meal: v_{L}>v_{G}" is a mathematical equation used to determine whether a lioness is able to catch and successfully kill her prey based on the respective velocities of the lioness (v_{L}) and the prey (v_{G}).

How is this equation calculated?

The equation is calculated by comparing the velocity of the lioness to the velocity of the prey. If the lioness's velocity is greater than the prey's velocity, then the lioness is likely to catch and kill the prey. However, if the prey's velocity is greater, then the lioness may not be able to successfully hunt and kill the prey.

What factors can affect the outcome of this equation?

The outcome of this equation can be affected by various factors such as the terrain, prey size and strength, the lioness's physical condition, and the effectiveness of her hunting strategy.

Why is this equation important in the study of lion behavior?

This equation is important in the study of lion behavior because it helps us understand the factors that contribute to a lioness's success or failure in hunting for food. It also provides insights into the hunting strategies and capabilities of lions, which are crucial for their survival in the wild.

Can this equation be applied to other predatory animals?

Yes, this equation can be applied to other predatory animals as well. While the variables may differ (e.g. v_{L} for the predator's velocity and v_{G} for the prey's velocity), the concept remains the same - the predator's ability to successfully catch and kill its prey is dependent on its velocity in comparison to the prey's velocity.

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