Huygens principle introduction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around Huygens' principle, exploring its implications and limitations in wavefront analysis. Participants examine the nature of secondary wavelets, interference patterns, and the validity of Huygens' principle in different dimensions and conditions.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why only the common tangential surface of secondary wavelets forms the new wavefront, suggesting that other constructive interferences might exist just inside this surface.
  • Another participant argues against the existence of such constructive interferences in sufficiently large homogeneous areas, introducing the concept of diffraction as a factor when dealing with smaller surfaces or patterns.
  • A different participant describes Huygens' principle as an analytical tool for predicting future wavefronts based on initial conditions, referencing Huygens' original work on the subject.
  • Another participant claims that Huygens' principle is a heuristic method for solving the linear wave equation, noting its limitations in odd-dimensional spaces and asserting that it is invalid in 2D wave problems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity and application of Huygens' principle, with no consensus reached on its limitations or the nature of interference patterns.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations related to the assumptions of homogeneity and dimensionality in applying Huygens' principle, as well as the dependence on the size and pattern of surfaces involved.

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why only the common tangential surface of the secondary wavelets forms the new wavefront ?
what about all the other interferances that might occur between the waves of the secondary sources , like the constructive interferances that occur slightly offside towards the inside of the tangential surface but still have
not been canceled by destruactive interferance?
 
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abhinavjeet said:
like the constructive interferances that occur slightly offside towards the inside of the tangential surface but still have
not been canceled by destruactive interferance?
There is no such thing, if you consider sufficiently large homogeneous areas. If you have very small surfaces or some patterns in the surface, you can get additional angles, this is the idea of diffraction.
 
First thing you need to realize is that huygens principle is just an analysis tool.It helps you find how the wave front will be at a later time if we are given the initial wave front.You can look into huygens paper on his principle where he have shown if we can consider each new point in space where the wavefront reaches as a new source which emits spherical wavefronts then we can construct the later wavefront as the one joining all the common tangential surface of the secondary wavelets
 
The Huygens principle is a heuristic way to approximately solve the (linear!) wave equation. The correct way is of course to use the corresponding retarded propagator. The first thing you learn is that it holds only in odd-dimensional spaces. E.g., in 2D-wave problems it's invalid!
 

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