Hybridization of orbitals for Phosphorus in Phosphate Ion

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The discussion revolves around the hybridization state of the central phosphorus atom in the phosphate ion, exploring the implications of different hybridization models and the nature of bonding in the ion. The scope includes theoretical considerations of hybridization and bonding in chemistry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the hybridization state of phosphorus in the phosphate ion is sp3d to accommodate five bonds with four oxygen atoms.
  • Another participant argues that d-orbitals are not relevant for hybridization in main group elements and suggests that sp3 hybridization is a reasonable choice.
  • A different participant questions the assertion of five bonds, seeking clarification on how sp3 hybridization could apply in this context.
  • Another reply challenges the certainty of five bonds, suggesting that the bonds may be highly ionic and that resonance structures could allow for various configurations, including different hybridizations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the hybridization state of phosphorus, with some supporting sp3 and others suggesting sp3d. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the number of bonds and the nature of hybridization.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of bonding in the phosphate ion, including the role of resonance structures and the validity of different hybridization states. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of hybridization in relation to the bonding framework.

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A relatively easy question regarding hybridized orbital (keep getting confused for some reason):

What is the hybridization state for the central phosphorus atom in a phosphate ion? I would presume that it would be sp3d to fulfill the expended octet/five bonds with the four oxygen atoms, but I read from a different online source that it is in fact sp3.

And, for quick check, this would mean that there are 4 sigma bonds and 1 pi bonds, right?

Thanks.
 
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Your question is not relatively easy. Although this is still widely taught, d-orbitals are never relevant to set up hybrid orbitals in main group elements.
The actual hybridization in phosphorous compounds is not something given, but rather a question of your own preferences.
sp3 does not seem to be a bad choice.

Maybe you have access to the following article via your library:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1380732399800223
or
http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/1997/ft/a700708f/unauth#!divAbstract
which treats somewhat similar sulphur compounds.
 
I don't understand-there are five bonds in the ion. How can it be sp3?
 
Conservation said:
I don't understand-there are five bonds in the ion.
First, what makes you so sure that there are 5 bonds?
Second, there are many ways to set up 5 bonds: The bonds are highly ionic, so you can set up plenty of resonance structures with several covalent and several ionic bonds.
You are even free to chose different hybridizations in different resonance structures.
 

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