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Hypocrit EU builds Apartheid Wall

  1. Aug 17, 2004 #1

    kat

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    GENIERE

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    Let’s hope the wall does as well keeping people in as it does keeping people out.
     
  4. Aug 20, 2004 #3
    For those whe don't know, Britain has had such walls, or fences, for years. As has France. They built them around the ends of the Chunnel.
     
  5. Aug 20, 2004 #4
    AWESOME! Maybe now we can get the French to help us build a wall between Texas and Mexico...
     
  6. Aug 21, 2004 #5
    The EU and especially Britain are entitled to build fences to keep out illegal immigrants, as it saves a lot of hassle. In this manner, one can more effectively monitor the people living in the countries. This helps with regard to crime and tax matters. The number of indians/ chinese/ pakistanis which enter the EU by way of these borders is huge. Only legal assylum seekers (non of which should come from these countries) should be allowed to enter. Similarly, I do not see what is wrong about monitoring the italian/ spanish coastline to try to halt african illegal immigrants.

    To blast anyone caring about such immigration is very harmful.
     
  7. Aug 21, 2004 #6

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    So how did Israel's security fence violate international law? The EU is just reinforcing borders that are already there.

    I lived in Detroit and there is one of the most active border crossing between the US and Canada, getting out of the US is easy.. getting in is a whole other story.
     
  8. Aug 21, 2004 #7
    It is easy to get into the US as testified by the large numbers of mexicans in the south.
     
  9. Aug 21, 2004 #8

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    At official border crossings such as the one in Detroit. Even with a valid visa you get fired with a lot of questions before they let you in (and I'm not even a suspicious looking person :wink: or from a problematic country).
     
  10. Aug 21, 2004 #9
    I do not like these EU fences, and this is pretty hypocritical, although the walls are for different purposes.
     
  11. Aug 22, 2004 #10
    For those who don't know, the USA has fences in various places along the border with Mexico, as WasteofO2 pointed out. The USA has men with guns patrolling points of access. You go through security checkpoints, and they have the face of Bush staring stupidly from posters all over the place, while the men with guns stand by just in case. Metal detectors, chemical sniffers, firearms, dogs, and all manner of deadly obstacles await any attempting to enter the USA though even a regular civilian airport.

    Most countries have the same, and have had such for a very long time.
     
  12. Aug 22, 2004 #11

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    Why is it hypocritical?
     
  13. Aug 22, 2004 #12
    They decried Israel's wall and put up their own. The EU's wall probably does not have the same capacity to increase tensions in an already-tense area as Israel's wall does, though.
     
  14. Aug 22, 2004 #13

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    If the EU built their wall outside of the EU then you might have a point. Israel's wall is not actually in Israel.
     
  15. Aug 22, 2004 #14

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    No it's being put up to protect their heritage and their economy as opposed to protecting people from being murdered.
     
  16. Aug 22, 2004 #15

    Monique

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    So I'll ask again: how did Israel's security fence violate international law?
     
  17. Aug 22, 2004 #16

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  18. Aug 22, 2004 #17

    Monique

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    Would the fence around my garden be a problem too?
     
  19. Aug 22, 2004 #18

    jcsd

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    If you built in your neighbours garden, yes.
     
  20. Aug 22, 2004 #19

    Monique

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    Exactly :approve:
     
  21. Aug 22, 2004 #20
    That bit about "ethnic cleansing"...
     
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