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The discussion revolves around navigating the challenges of asking a girl out after struggling with conversation topics, particularly focusing on relativity. Participants emphasize the importance of moving beyond technical discussions and suggest casual settings for dates, such as coffee or bowling, to ease the pressure of conversation. There is a consensus that asking her out is crucial, regardless of initial awkwardness, and that engaging her in discussions about her interests can foster a more natural dialogue. The conversation also touches on the anxiety surrounding dating, with advice to approach it with a mindset of curiosity rather than fear. Ultimately, the key takeaway is to be proactive in expressing interest while allowing for a relaxed atmosphere to facilitate connection.
  • #51


cristo said:
Why is dating fake? It's just spending time with someone (like Greg said, everyone eats!) and getting to know them.

It really isn't I guess. I just wanted a segway into that xkcd comic. :rolleyes:
 
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  • #52


It's not fake, so much as forced. A lot of people don't like "going out on dates" because it causes a lot of anxiety and can get awkward. That's to be expected, though, considering the pretext of the whole thing. Normally this anxiety doesn't extend beyond the beginning of the first date.

It's necessary, though, when you're not in high school anymore with any number of ways to get together with people.

Actually, I think bowling is a pretty good idea too. Probably better than my movie thing.

Cyrus: Why don't you get out of YOUR dorm and go and socialize so YOU don't become a social retard? Like, oh let's just say, the kind of guy who logs on to internet forums telling other people what to post and what not to as though he thinks he's said something unimaginably profound every time he hits the enter key. You wouldn't want to become like THEM, after all.
 
  • #53


OH BOY! Another one of these threads again.

Cyrus said:
>.< ......?

everyone getting along I see... (>^_^)(>0_0)
tchitt has a couple of good points on dating and Cyrus and how not to make friends in a physics forum. Read them above because repeating them is a waste of thread space.If an admin is reading this, put a lock on this thread please. Thanks. And Merry Christmas! =D xoxo <3 .. okay I'm getting carried away with this thread. sorry.
 
  • #54


mikeknick04 said:
If an admin is reading this, put a lock on this thread please.

But we all want to know what happens!
And annoying Cyrus is one of the great PF passtimes. I fully plan on making a dating question thread in about a months time if no one beats me to it.
 
  • #55


It seems like we have been getting more and more dating questions recently. Anyone else notice that?
 
  • #56


Crazy Tosser said:
How about movies and then a walk in a park? Or reverse?

I just thought of something. What if she finds out that you went to a physics internet site for relationship advice?
 
  • #57


TheStatutoryApe said:
But we all want to know what happens!
Especially as something was supposed to happen yesterday. :smile:
 
  • #58


tchitt said:
Cyrus: Why don't you get out of YOUR dorm and go and socialize so YOU don't become a social retard? Like, oh let's just say, the kind of guy who logs on to internet forums telling other people what to post and what not to as though he thinks he's said something unimaginably profound every time he hits the enter key. You wouldn't want to become like THEM, after all.

I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you over how awesome I am. I am pretty awesome, I agree with you.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to go play video games and dungeons and dragons in my dorm. HEEEEH HEEEH HEEEH.

I'm glad you're so concerned about my social life. :smile: Thanks for the laugh for today.
 
  • #59


G01 said:
It seems like we have been getting more and more dating questions recently. Anyone else notice that?

Me? NOooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

But now that you mention it.....
 
  • #60


It seems like we have been getting more and more dating questions recently. Anyone else notice that?

Perhaps the nerds of today are a bit more bold than the nerds of the 70's, 80's, and 90's who were victimized by all those Hollywood movies playing them out to be undesirable social lepers? Nowadays, Hollywood screen writers don't stay in school long enough to grow that same sort of bitter resentment towards nerds that we have seen in the past...
 
  • #61


What happened? I called her the entire day yesterday (~4 times per hour, for 5 hours) and nobody picked up >.<
 
  • #62


She's probably trying to give you a hint. "MOVE ON"
 
  • #63


What happened? I called her the entire day yesterday (~4 times per hour, for 5 hours) and nobody picked up >.<

Oh god, this is terrible...

O.k., the likely scenario is she saw you call each and every time and let her phone go to the answering machine. This is a *standard* girl trick where they try to test how eager you are by seeing if you will call back and you fell for it big time (should have posted here after the second call!).

Sorry guy, live and learn I guess.
 
  • #64


Renge Ishyo said:
Oh god, this is terrible...

O.k., the likely scenario is she saw you call each and every time and let her phone go to the answering machine. This is a *standard* girl trick where they try to test how eager you are by seeing if you will call back and you fell for it big time (should have posted here after the second call!).

Sorry guy, live and learn I guess.

She seemed a little nicer than that...
I thought being eager was a good thing. It shows you actually care, doesn't it?
 
  • #65


Crazy Tosser said:
What happened? I called her the entire day yesterday (~4 times per hour, for 5 hours) and nobody picked up >.<

HAHAhAhhHAahAHa... now you made my day.


Keep calling her. Shes just playing the ole hard to get. Usually, you have to call at least every 15 mins and text message and leave voice mails. Email her too if you know her email address, and send her constant PMs if you use AIM.

When she finally picks up just be slient for a second and make heavy breathing noises. GIRLS LOVE THIS. Then hang up the phone after about 20 seconds of this silence. She'll call you back and be all over you afterwards. I PROMISE.
 
  • #66


Yeah, but if you look TOO eager then you appear desperate and creepy.
 
  • #67


Crazy Tosser said:
She seemed a little nicer than that...
I thought being eager was a good thing. It shows you actually care, doesn't it?

I still can't figure out if this is a joke or not.
 
  • #68


*sigh* Nerds are people too, as the ol'.. ol'... what's his face... said.

Anyway, I will not call her anymore probably. Enough entertainment for you guys, I will just get back to work. Got so many things in physics to learn and... well, quite a lot of time. >.<
 
  • #69


moose said:
I still can't figure out if this is a joke or not.

Probably not; it's a common misconception of the inexperienced.
 
  • #70


Crazy Tosser said:
*sigh* Nerds are people too, as the ol'.. ol'... what's his face... said.

Anyway, I will not call her anymore probably. Enough entertainment for you guys, I will just get back to work. Got so many things in physics to learn and... well, quite a lot of time. >.<

Don't give up hope. If you keep calling her eventually she'll cave in. Besides, everyone knows you have to text her and email her constanly too if you want a response. Have you tried going to her house and knocking on her dorm door?
 
  • #71


Cyrus said:
Don't give up hope. If you keep calling her eventually she'll cave in. Besides, everyone knows you have to text her and email her constanly too if you want a response. Have you tried going to her house and knocking on her dorm door?

Oh Cyrus, you are evil >.<
 
  • #72


>.<

I'm a ladies man. he should trust my advice...rightttttttt cristo? :D
 
  • #73


Oh dear.

Well, if she really wasn't by the phone when you called, she's probably frightened now, after seeing all of the calls.

Do men really think that women don't answer on purpose to play games? Do people really do that? Am I the only one that doesn't. I *will* turn my phone off when I don't feel like talking, but it's because I don't feel like talking. :rolleyes:
 
  • #74


You should make a likelike head scuplture of her out of bologna and give it to her as a gift. Girls LOVEEEE this.
 
  • #75


Cyrus said:
You should make a likelike head scuplture of her out of bologna and give it to her as a gift. Girls LOVEEEE this.
Oh, now this I would love, and add lips of cheese and olives for eyes.
 
  • #76


Crazy Tosser said:
What happened? I called her the entire day yesterday (~4 times per hour, for 5 hours) and nobody picked up >.<

It is important to realize it was 5 hours only in your own reference frame. You see if you take two synchronized clocks...

(contd. on p.92)
 
  • #77


...so evil... *sob* ...

epenguin said:
It is important to realize it was 5 hours only in your own reference frame. You see if you take two synchronized clocks...

(contd. on p.92)

So who is aboard a spaceship approaching c, me or her?
 
  • #78


Cyrus said:
>.<

I'm a ladies man. he should trust my advice...rightttttttt cristo? :D

Yup, trust every word Cyrus says...

Evo said:
Oh dear.

Well, if she really wasn't by the phone when you called, she's probably frightened now, after seeing all of the calls.

Yea, I'd say so, especially as the poor girl doesn't even know him!

Still, I'm sure that Cyrus's "attrition dating" advice will go down a treat :wink:
 
  • #79


I think the bologna sculpture, left in front of her door, is definitely the way to smooth the phone call thing over.
 
  • #80


eww...bologna.
 
  • #81


Evo said:
I think the bologna sculpture, left in front of her door, is definitely the way to smooth the phone call thing over.

...sex just isn't that important to me...

Well, to be truthful, it depends on how much time on average it takes to make one
 
  • #82


Crazy Tosser said:
...sex just isn't that important to me...

:confused: Where did that come from?

How old are you, out of interest?
 
  • #83


Best to be passive in the conversation. Prompt her to talk about herself. Let her generate the topics. Draw her out.

Ultimately no failure can fail as badly as doing nothing out of fear. Use "what's the worst that can happen?" as a mantra.

Try going into a conversation or date with no expectations good or bad.

But if you are nervous tell her so. Say you like her so much that you're afraid of making a bad impression. She'll understand that as a complement. But always say this with a tone of slight apology but no plea for sympathy per se.

Finally find out her passions in a first conversation and study up on these. Especially if she has a hobby you might like ask her to teach you about it.
 
  • #84


cristo said:
:confused: Where did that come from?

How old are you, out of interest?

It's a quote *sigh*
How old am I... arrgh... forgot...
 
  • #85


How long does it take to make ONE? WTF

Please, stop now while your slightly ahead.
 
  • #86


Anyway, I will not call her anymore probably. Enough entertainment for you guys, I will just get back to work. Got so many things in physics to learn and... well, quite a lot of time. >.<

That's the right attitude. I feel for ya; I've been there too. The cool thing is that in 10 years you'll probably be making six figures while she is waiting tables at Denny's. It's sort of the way that nature balances these things out in the end.

Do men really think that women don't answer on purpose to play games? Do people really do that? Am I the only one that doesn't. I *will* turn my phone off when I don't feel like talking, but it's because I don't feel like talking.

Yes, *common girls* do do this thing to men on purpose (and a bunch of other things). I have two sisters and i watched them for years before they got a clue and stopped treating people like crap (so I know the truth!). In the olden days you couldn't really tell, but in the age of cell phones it is reasonable to expect people to check their cell phones on a regular basis and respond to calls if they want to as most people carry it with them and can check caller ID even if they don't pick up. *Especially* if they are a young girl. Do you really think this same girl wouldn't pick up if it is Jenny calling to go to the mall to buy shoes? People of value wouldn't do this sort of thing to another person knowing that it's hurting them, but such people are rare.
 
  • #87


Renge Ishyo said:
That's the right attitude. I feel for ya; I've been there too. The cool thing is that in 10 years you'll probably be making six figures while she is waiting tables at Denny's. It's sort of the way that nature balances these things out in the end.

Nice try. Theoretical physicists don't make six figures a year. And grad students make less than waiters at Denny's :P
 
  • #88


Who said you had to become a theoretical physicist? One word: engineer.
 
  • #89


Renge Ishyo said:
Who said you had to become a theoretical physicist? One word: engineer.

He could become a cocktail waitress with his physics degree.
 
  • #90


Those tips would probably be better than at Denny's.
 
  • #91


Renge Ishyo said:
Who said you had to become a theoretical physicist? One word: engineer.

Eh... What do engineers do, precisely?
 
  • #92


They make things. And get paid ****loads of money for it. There are all sorts of types of engineering, but pretty much any product that you see for sale in a store has an engineer behind its development in some way. Google it if you really don't know.
 
  • #93


Either way, relativity and quantum mechanics are not much of an application to engineering, so why bother. I would make an awful engineer.
 
  • #94


Crazy Tosser said:
Eh... What do engineers do, precisely?
Like hitmen, we solve problems.
 
  • #95


Either way, relativity and quantum mechanics are not much of an application to engineering, so why bother. I would make an awful engineer.

That's just coming out because you are in a negative emotional state. I don't care what kind of a man you are, you are very likely not going to get a good woman on a casual try. It's like winning the jackpot in Vegas, the odds are that you are going to lose over and over again and you just have to hope that one day you get lucky and score a good one (then you have to be smart enough to recognize what you have and keep her...which is a second lesson). I have had one quality girl my entire life (and thank god for that, that is how I know such a thing exists), and a whole bunch of others who all behave pretty much the same way and are ultimately no good. You are going to have to try a whole bunch of times to find a good one so get used to this sort of thing.
 
  • #96


Renge Ishyo said:
I have had one quality girl my entire life (and thank god for that, that is how I know such a thing exists), and a whole bunch of others who all behave pretty much the same way and are ultimately no good. You are going to have to try a whole bunch of times to find a good one so get used to this sort of thing.
6* out of 7 girls I've coupled with have been "quality" girls. It doesn't always have to end with 'she went crazy on me'. I am friends with several of them. Incompatibility doesn't mean a**holity.

(*only one of them do I really say 'phew, that was bad idea')
 
  • #97


Evo said:
Do men really think that women don't answer on purpose to play games?


Oh yes, they do. Immature women like playing games, so you have to play back. I've had plenty of girls do this too me just to make me wait and sweat it out.

But you can pull the reverse on them, it's kind of evil, and you're a woman, so I'm not sure exactly why I'm telling you this story, but as a guy, I've drunk-dialed girls I used to date at odd hours of the night and you hang up after it rings on their phone once. If it doesn't wake them up and have them wondering, they spend the next week wondering what I wanted.. and constantly try calling me back, which has me seriously screening my calls for that week. A sick trick, but it seemed to have spurred a lot of girls from my past to buy me x-mas gifts this year. Not only somewhat twisted, but pretty sweet in my opinion...
 
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  • #98


mikeknick04 said:
A sick trick, but it seemed to have spurned a lot of girls from my past to buy me x-mas gifts this year.
Did you mean spurred? :wink: Spurned kind of gives it a different meaning.
 
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  • #99


DaveC426913 said:
Did you mean spurred? :rolleyes: Spurned is kind of exactly the opposite.

My bad, thanks for the catch. And yes, it is totally the opposite, which is what they'll do to me in this new year.
 
  • #100


6* out of 7 girls I've coupled with have been "quality" girls. It doesn't always have to end with 'she went crazy on me'. I am friends with several of them. Incompatibility doesn't mean a**holity.

(*only one of them do I really say 'phew, that was bad idea')

That statement I made was probably too extreme...what I meant was to get a really good one you have to be patient. There are a lot of girls out there who aren't "bad" per say, but engage in pretty much the same behavior as every other girl. They aren't jerks, just typical and they do the same sort of typical things many of which I have seen over and over again from my sisters (like the "don't call the guy back game" which was just played to poor ole crazy tosser). It takes a special woman to not buy into that crap and be straight with you.
 
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