DanP said:
Francis, but we are biological machines.
Perhaps that, and nothing more. And I am even willing to accept that; but I don't think we know enough yet to make that assertion.
There is nothing sacred about us, nothing special, nothing to write home about. Some humans have the desire to think that we are something more, that we occupy a privileged place in the creation, but it's just a vain wish with not a single grain of truth in it.
Correction: we are lucky, because even if there is no after life, and there was no point to our existence, we still had
the capacity to understand that.
Some ppl think in many different ways about sex. It may be special to you, but to a lot of us there are a great deal of things which are much more intimate than sex.
Such as?
As for the feelings of the other person, really ... She wants it, I want it. Where is the problem?
There isn't a problem really, unless you are being inconsiderate of the other person.
You know what, at least one girl hated me a pretty long time because I didn't want to sleep with her :P
Well then she's obviously not an adult; that's kind of bratty.
She got her way eventually, she convinced me to have with her a one night stand like 2 years after the initial events. So much for doing "the right thing". She was hurt and upset for months because I rejected her. Would have been much simple to just give her what she wanted in the first place :P
Geez, don't do her any favors (being sarcastic). Again, I wouldn't call this person "all there" to begin with; no disrespect to you.
Age is an attitude. If you are tired, your slowly going down. I personally love life. Honestly, I wouldn't mind to live centuries.
I agree; and I can respect that.
I think your dramatizing it a bit.
No, I'm just trying to take things seriously.
Humans are resilient. Everyday I see a lot of humans with garbageloads of problems and issues, and you know what, they cope. They prevail, they make things happen, they solve problems and most of them don't break to pieces.
But that doesn't excuse us to be a "Bull in a China Shop," in handling them either.
Might be hell for you, for others is a much easier choice.
Then perhaps they haven't dwelt upon it as much.
And besides, it;s not like an abortion is deciding between your life , your wife's life and so. This is over-dramatizing again. It;s a safe procedure (as much as any intervention can be safe), and the cases where somebody dies from it in our century are extremely rare.
I'm not critiquing the procedure. I'm talking about a situation in which a person is presented with complications--meaning the mother would die in regular childbirth. I'm just saying that I would never want to have to decide between my wife and my child; or worse, if I were a mother, to have to decide between myself and my child, in order to live.
The categorical imperative is devoid of any real value, as its most of philosophy. For all practical purposes, it doesn't exist. It's built on flawed axioms, trying to raise morale to the rank of universal laws, when morale is just an expression of the customs, prejudices and fears of a society at a certain moment in time.
That's fine, I agree, to say that a human construct--such as a particular philosophy--is flawed, or potentially flawed. But we humans also created civilization; and we also abide by certain rules while we are here (unless of course we'd prefer accusations of insanity or criminal behavior, decided upon by the part of the majority). We play the game; we participate in the illusion. We perpetuate it even, because (for now at least) it is all that we have.
That having been said, I should think we'd each (as members of civilization) always aim to perfect our society (even if we are doomed to failure). We still try harder. And that is the point of philosophy or religious philosophy.
As I said, abortion doesn't violates any imperative. Ultimately, you have to recognize the right of a women to dispose of her body as she does see fit.
But that should never serve as a convenient excuse for a man to shirk his responsibility either.
Church has tried for centuries to rob them of this right. We really don't need philosophizers to try and do the same thing.
The Catholic Church, without a doubt, has major issues; it's a human construct as well, after all. But the perspective, in this case at least, is not about simple domination of the free will (as so many people conveniently portray it); it is about making judgments that are the most gentle and least obstructive to living things.
UHHH...You seem to be "PLOTTING" to try to take advantage of somebody. And, on top of that: are somehow looking for tips on the internet!? 
