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The discussion centers around calculating the temperature required for a hot-air balloon to achieve a specified lift of 3139 N with a volume of 1794 m³. Participants express frustration over the complexity of the problem, indicating a lack of understanding and support from peers. Key equations involve the relationship between the densities of the air inside and outside the balloon, buoyant force, and the ideal gas law. The solution involves manipulating these equations to find the temperature of the air inside the balloon necessary to produce the desired lift. Overall, the thread highlights the challenges faced in solving physics problems related to buoyancy and thermodynamics.
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Here's the question: A hot-air balloon achieves its buoyant lift by heating the air inside the balloon, which makes it less dense than the air outside. Suppose the volume of a balloon is 1794 m3 and the required lift is 3139 N (weight of equipment and passenger). Calculate the temperature of the air inside the balloon which will produce the desired lift. Assume that the outside air temperature is 0oC and that air is an ideal gas under these conditions. Express your answer in oC. The density of air at STP is 1.29 kg/m3.

Someone else even posted this on... I think... it is too hard. I do not understand and no one can help me at all. I am really frustrated and all of my friends have given up, but I really need to get it right. Please help me.
 
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Jayhawk1 said:
Here's the question: A hot-air balloon achieves its buoyant lift by heating the air inside the balloon, which makes it less dense than the air outside. Suppose the volume of a balloon is 1794 m3 and the required lift is 3139 N (weight of equipment and passenger). Calculate the temperature of the air inside the balloon which will produce the desired lift. Assume that the outside air temperature is 0oC and that air is an ideal gas under these conditions. Express your answer in oC. The density of air at STP is 1.29 kg/m3.

Someone else even posted this on... I think... it is too hard. I do not understand and no one can help me at all. I am really frustrated and all of my friends have given up, but I really need to get it right. Please help me.

Same problem- different numbers

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=552427&posted=1#post552427
 
Jayhawk1 said:
Here's the question: A hot-air balloon achieves its buoyant lift by heating the air inside the balloon, which makes it less dense than the air outside. Suppose the volume of a balloon is 1794 m3 and the required lift is 3139 N (weight of equipment and passenger). Calculate the temperature of the air inside the balloon which will produce the desired lift. Assume that the outside air temperature is 0oC and that air is an ideal gas under these conditions. Express your answer in oC. The density of air at STP is 1.29 kg/m3.

Someone else even posted this on... I think... it is too hard. I do not understand and no one can help me at all. I am really frustrated and all of my friends have given up, but I really need to get it right. Please help me.
SOLUTION HINTS:
{Density} = ρ ∝ P/(R*T) ::: ⇒ ρ12 = T2/T1
{Density @ STP (0 degC)=(273.1 degK)} = ρ(273.1) = (1.29 kg/m^3)
{Density @ SP & Temp=(T degK)} = ρ(T) = (1.29 kg/m^3)*(273.1 degK)/T

{Bouyant Force} = {Volume Displaced}*(g)*{ρ(273.1) - ρ(T)} =
= {Volume Displaced}*(g)*{(1.29 kg/m^3) - (1.29 kg/m^3)*(273.1 degK)/T} =
= {Volume Displaced}*(g)*(1.29 kg/m^3)*{1 - (273.1 degK)/T} =
= (1794 m^3)*(9.81 m/sec^2)*(1.29 kg/m^3)*{1 - (273.1 degK)/T} =
= (22703)*{1 - (273.1 degK)/T}

Bouyant Force of (3139 N) required:
(3139 N) = (22703)*{1 - (273.1 degK)/T}
::: ⇒ {1 - (273.1 degK)/T} = (0.13826)
::: ⇒ (273.1 degK)/T = 1 - (0.13826)

Solve last equation for "T" in (degK). Convert "T" to (degC) by subtracting (273.1).


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Here's the question: A hot-air balloon achieves its buoyant lift by heating the air inside the balloon, which makes it less dense than the air outside. Suppose the volume of a balloon is 1794 m3 and the required lift is 3139 N (weight of equipment and passenger). Calculate the temperature of the air inside the balloon which will produce the desired lift. Assume that the outside air temperature is 0oC and that air is an ideal gas under these conditions. Express your answer in oC. The density of air at STP is 1.29 kg/m3.

Someone else even posted this on... I think... it is too hard. I do not understand and no one can help me at all. I am really frustrated and all of my friends have given up, but I really need to get it right. Please help me.
Since the hot air balloon is open, the pressure inside is the same as the pressure outside. Since PV=nRT or T = PV/nR:

\frac{T_{inside}}{T_{outside}} = \frac{n_{cold}}{n_{hot}} = \frac{\rho_{cold}}{\rho_{hot}}

Now to generate buoyant lift, the density has to be such that the (mass of the air inside less the mass of same volume at 0 deg) x g = the lift.

(1)Lift = (\rho_{cold} - \rho_{hot})Vg

\rho_{hot} = \frac{\rho_{cold}T_{outside}}{T_{inside}}

So (1) becomes:

Lift = (\rho_{cold} - \frac{\rho_{cold}T_{outside}}{T_{inside}})Vg

\frac{Lift}{Vg\rho_{cold}} = (1 - \frac{T_{outside}}{T_{inside}})

Solve for the inside temp.

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