I with a distance problem involving constant acceleration

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving a train accelerating at a constant rate. The acceleration is calculated to be 16.4 km/hr/sec, derived from the final velocity of 115 km/hr over a 7-second period. For the first 3.5 seconds, the distance traveled is calculated as 27.5 meters using the appropriate kinematic equation. The second 3.5 seconds involves using the velocity at 3.5 seconds as the initial velocity, resulting in a distance of 43.31 meters. The key confusion revolves around whether to incorporate the distance from the first segment into the calculations for the second segment, which should not be done as the problem specifies distances for each segment independently.
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Homework Statement


A train starts at a railway station and accelerates, at a constant rate, for 7 seconds, to a velocity of 115 kilometers per hour east. Set t = 0 at the instant the train starts to accelerate.

a) determine the acceleration of the train (in km/hr/sec.) at t = 3.5 sec.
b) determine the distance, in meters, the train travels during the first 3.5 seconds of the acceleration period.
c) determine the distance, in meters, the train travels during the second 3.5 seconds of the acceleration period.


Homework Equations


To find the acceleration at t = 3.5 sec., I write: accel. = change in veloc. divided by change in time = 115 km/hr. - 0 km/hr.
_____________________ = 115 km/hr.
7 sec. - 0 s __________ = 16.4 km/hr/sec. constant
7 sec.

Then, to determine distance traveled in the first 3.5 seconds, i use the equation:
x = initial x + initial veloc. X time + 1/2 accel. X time squared

x = 0m + 0m/squ X 3.5 sec. + 1/2 X 4.5 m/sec squared X (3.5 sec.) squared

4.5 m is from converting the 16.4 km/hr/sec to meters.

I think I use the same equation to find the distance the train travels in the second 3.5 seconds.

Im confused about which numbers to use in the equation.














The Attempt at a Solution



 
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oops i messed up on the top part there. i meant to write:
acceler. = 115 km/hr/sec. divided by 7 seconds = 16.4 km/hr/sec. constant
 
1 a.
Since this is constant acceleration, just use
(Vf - Vo)/(7)

1 b. Use equation:
x = vt + 1/2at^2
x = (0)(3.5) + 0.5(a)(3.5)^2

1 c. Find velocity at 3.5 seconds use acceleration, Vo = 0, and t = 3.5
and equation: vf = vo + at.
And then use that as initial velocity, and repeat 1b.
 
thanks for your help :)
 
oh, i have one more quick question-do i need to use the distance calculated from the first 3.5 sec, and plug that into the initial position of the equation for the second 3 seconds? hope that's clear enough.
 
second *3.5 seconds
 
i got 15.75 m for initial velocity and plugged that into x = x initial + veloc. initial X 3.5s X 1/2 (4.5 m/s/s) (3.5)^2
i got 27. 5 meters for the distance of the first 3.5 seconds, but when i try to calculate for the second 3.5 seconds, it seems way too much 82.6 m-maybe because i shoulnt plug in 27.5m for the inital position the second time. it remains at 0? i just don't know.
 
yes don't sub, the question asks what is the distance from 3.5s.
So initial = 0.
 
so, in that case, i think this would be right:
the distance for the first 3.5 seconds would be
x = x initial + (v initial X 3.5 s) + 1/2 a (t)^2
= 0 m + (0 m/s X 3.5s) + 1/2 (4.5m/s/s)(3.5s)^2 = 27.5 m

the distance for the second 3.5 seconds is:

x = x initial + (v initial X 3.5 s) + 1/2 a (t)^2
= 0m + (4.5m/s/s X 3.5 s) + 1/2 X 4.5 m/s/s X (3.5s)^2
= 43.31 m
 
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