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The problem involves two characters, Romeo and Juliet, with Romeo starting at a position of 0 meters and Juliet at 6 meters. Romeo runs towards Juliet at a constant speed, while Juliet accelerates towards him. The discussion includes two scenarios: one where Juliet accelerates towards Romeo and another where she accelerates away from him. Participants are exploring the conditions under which they meet and the implications of different accelerations.

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  • Participants discuss setting up position equations for both characters to determine when and where they meet. There are considerations about the time being the same for both when they cross paths.
  • Some participants suggest using velocity-time graphs to visualize the problem and analyze the areas representing distances covered by each character.
  • Questions arise regarding the maximum acceleration for Juliet when moving away from Romeo and how this affects their meeting times.
  • There is uncertainty about the interpretation of the results, particularly in relation to the acceleration values and their implications for the meeting times.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and calculations. Some have reported specific times for the meeting points, while others are clarifying the nature of the acceleration values needed for Juliet's movement. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various interpretations and approaches are being explored.

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Participants are preparing for a physics class and are seeking foundational understanding of the problem. There are mentions of qualitative sketches and the importance of visualizing the problem, indicating a focus on conceptual clarity rather than definitive solutions.

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I need help with a problem from yale physics open courseware??

Homework Statement



Romeo is at x=0m at t=0s when he sees juliet at x=6m.
a) romeo begins to run towards her at v = 5 m/s. Juliet, in turn begins to accelerate towards him at a =-2m/s^2. when and where will they cross?
b) suppose, instead, that juliet moved away from romeo with positive acceleration a. Find a(max), the maximum acceleration for which romeo can catch up with her. for this case find the time t of their meeting. show that for smaller values of a these star-crossed lovers cross twice.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


i have no idea how to start this answering this question, I am trying to prepare myself for my physics class I am taking next semester, i just need some explanation on how to about solving the question.
i was thinking for a) that their time would be the same when they meet each other.
 
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Start with a position equation for each person and then think about what will be the same when they meet.
 


lezoujonathan said:

Homework Statement



Romeo is at x=0m at t=0s when he sees juliet at x=6m.
a) romeo begins to run towards her at v = 5 m/s. Juliet, in turn begins to accelerate towards him at a =-2m/s^2. when and where will they cross?
b) suppose, instead, that juliet moved away from romeo with positive acceleration a. Find a(max), the maximum acceleration for which romeo can catch up with her. for this case find the time t of their meeting. show that for smaller values of a these star-crossed lovers cross twice.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


i have no idea how to start this answering this question, I am trying to prepare myself for my physics class I am taking next semester, i just need some explanation on how to about solving the question.
i was thinking for a) that their time would be the same when they meet each other.

For part (b) , and the double crossing situation, I would start by drawing a velocity - time graph for the pair. [attachment Romeo 1]

Juliet's graph is the sloping line -she is accelerating
Romeos line is horizontal, and starts a little later, since at his speed [5 m/s] he doesn't reach the point from where Juliet started [6 m away] until time 1.2 s.

The consider what happens [attachment Romeo 2].
The red area represents the "head start" Juliet made, before romeo passed her original start point.
The green area represents the distance Romeo made up while he was running faster than the speed Juliet had attained.
When those two area are equal - Romeo has caught - or as is suggested in this example - has run past Juliet.

As more time passes, [attachment Romeo 3] the blue area shows the total distance Romeo gets in front of Juliet before Juliet has reached Romeo's velocity [so he gains no more distance.
The purple area represents the distance Juliet makes up now that she is running faster than Romeo.
Once the purple area equals the blue area she has caught - or is about to pass him ["these star-crossed lovers cross twice].

Now had Juliet's acceleration been greater - her line would have been steeper - then the time at which the green area equaled the red area would have co-incided with the time Juliet's velocity reached Romeo's [5 m/s]

Notice that these graphs were created in "paint" and could just as easily been sketched on paper by you - IF you got into the habit of expressing these problems like this. The velocity-time graph can be a very powerful tool.

From my sketch I can now see that for (b) the maximum value of acceleration is 2.08333333 or 2.5/1.2. Can you see why?

EDIT: Hmmmmm. the attachments didn't come - i will try again next post.
 


lezoujonathan said:

Homework Statement



Romeo is at x=0m at t=0s when he sees juliet at x=6m.
a) romeo begins to run towards her at v = 5 m/s. Juliet, in turn begins to accelerate towards him at a =-2m/s^2. when and where will they cross?
b) suppose, instead, that juliet moved away from romeo with positive acceleration a. Find a(max), the maximum acceleration for which romeo can catch up with her. for this case find the time t of their meeting. show that for smaller values of a these star-crossed lovers cross twice.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


i have no idea how to start this answering this question, I am trying to prepare myself for my physics class I am taking next semester, i just need some explanation on how to about solving the question.
i was thinking for a) that their time would be the same when they meet each other.

Hopefully attachments - note that I have deliberately not labelled axes or intercepts etc as these are merely "qualitative sketches" to show the concept.
 

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Thanks, i got t=1s for part a; and t=2s and t=3s for part b
 


lezoujonathan said:
Thanks, i got t=1s for part a; and t=2s and t=3s for part b

The answers for part (b) should have been an acceleration value.

With acceleration of 2, those times may well be accurate [your part (a) answer is correct but I have not checked your (b) answers], but the question was asking what acceleration value would mean Romeo only just catches up to Juliet before she continues to accelerate away.
 

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