If p is a covering map with B compact and fiber of b finite, E compact

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a covering map \( p: E \rightarrow B \), where \( B \) is compact and each fiber \( p^{-1}(b) \) is finite for \( b \in B \). The goal is to show that \( E \) is compact, referencing a specific problem from Munkres.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the strategy of using a cover of \( E \) and reducing it to a finite subcover by mapping to \( B \). There are attempts to understand how to return from the finite subcover of \( B \) back to \( E \). Some participants suggest refining the cover to smaller sets where \( p \) acts as a homeomorphism.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the implications of replacing the original cover with a refined cover. Participants are questioning the validity of certain steps and the properties of the covering map, particularly regarding the relationship between the sets involved and the finiteness of fibers. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of finite unions and the nature of the covering map.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion about the justification for refining the cover and the implications of the covering map's properties. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on certain steps and the overall approach, indicating that further clarification is needed.

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Homework Statement


Let p: E \rightarrow B be a covering map.

If B is compact andp^{-1}(b) is finite for each b in B, then E compact.

Note: This is a problem from Munkres pg 341, question 6b in section 54.

The Attempt at a Solution



I begin with a cover of E denote it \{U_\alpha\}.

I want to reduce this to a finite subcover (thus showing that E is compact).

First I use the fact that p is a covering map and thus open to send this cover of E to a cover of B.

Denote the image of \{U_\alpha\} under p by \{W_\alpha\}

Then since B is compact I can reduce this to a finite subcover: \cup_{i=1}^n W_i.

Here is where I get stuck, I'm not sure how to send this finite subcover of B back over to E. I'm not even sure if I'm going about this the right way.

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks.
 
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The natural thing to do is of course looking at ##p^{-1}(W_i)##. The problem is that

U_i\subseteq p^{-1}(W_i)

and equality does not hold in general because ##p## is not injective. So maybe you can do something with the fact that ##p## is a local homeomorphism and that it has finite fibers.

One thing I would do is first to replace the ##U_i## by a cover of smaller sets ##V_j## such that ##p:V_j\rightarrow p(V_j)## is a homeomorphism between open sets. Then think about how you can write ##p^{-1}(p(V_j))##.
 
Why are we allowed to replace the U_\alpha by a smaller cover? But then once we have that it's just as simple as saying we can reduce the V_j to a finite subcover since after we map them to B we can take a finite subcover of them and map them back using p^-1 since each open set in the image is then homeomorphic to its pre-image?
 
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EgoKilla said:
Why are we allowed to replace the U_\alpha by a smaller cover?

First try to obtain a finite cover of the ##V_j##. Then you can use that ##V_j\subseteq U_\alpha## for some ##\alpha## to obtain a finite cover of the ##U_\alpha##.

By the way, in topology we call the ##V_j## a refinement of the ##U_\alpha##. The fact that the ##V_j## has a finite subcover can then be stated as "Every open cover has a finite open refinement". This statement is equivalent to compactness.

But then once we have that it's just as simple as saying we can reduce the V_j to a finite subcover since after we map them to B we can take a finite subcover of them and map them back using p^-1 since each open set in the image is then homeomorphic to its pre-image?

Are you using that ##p^{-1}(p(V_j)) = V_j##? This is still not true. It is only true for injective maps. However, because you are dealing with a covering map, you can write ##p^{-1}(p(V_j))## in a better and more convenient form.
 
Sorry, I'm still confused about why we're even allowed to replace U_\alpha by the V_j at all.

We can write p^{-1}(p(V_j)) as a disjoint union of open sets in E, each of which maps homeomorphically to p(V_j). But this must be finite because of the finiteness of the fibers?
 
EgoKilla said:
Sorry, I'm still confused about why we're even allowed to replace U_\alpha by the V_j at all.

Yes, that is something you should think about.

We can write p^{-1}(p(V_j)) as a disjoint union of open sets in E, each of which maps homeomorphically to p(V_j). But this must be finite because of the finiteness of the fibers?

Yes, even better: we can write ##p^{-1}(p(V_j))## as the finite union of some ##V_i##. So there exist a finite set ##I## such that

p^{-1}(p(V_j)) = \bigcup_{i\in I} V_i

Using this, can you then find a open cover of the ##V_j## and hence of the ##U_\alpha##?
 
I'm honestly so lost.
 
EgoKilla said:
I'm honestly so lost.

You've done most of the proof! Where are you lost?
 

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