If you accidentally swallow a tiny amount of 70% ethanol in a lab,

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The discussion revolves around the health risks associated with accidentally swallowing a small amount of 70% ethanol in a laboratory setting. Participants explore the implications of consuming ethanol, its potential dangers, and the effects of denatured versus non-denatured ethanol.

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  • Some participants suggest that swallowing a tiny amount of 70% ethanol is unlikely to pose a significant health risk, but emphasize the need to define what constitutes 'tiny.'
  • One participant notes that lab-grade ethanol is often denatured, which could introduce additional harmful chemicals, such as methanol, raising concerns about safety.
  • Another participant argues that historically, people have consumed ethanol for millennia, indicating that substantial amounts are typically required to cause harm.
  • There is a discussion about the varying grades of ethanol used in labs, with some being denatured and others not, which affects their safety when ingested.
  • One participant mentions that even in high-consumption cultures, such as in Russia, drinking large quantities of vodka is common, but they also acknowledge the risks of severe dehydration and headaches without permanent damage.
  • Another participant clarifies that the remaining 30% of the 70% ethanol solution is likely distilled water and shares their personal experience of feeling fine after the incident.

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Participants express a range of views on the safety of ingesting small amounts of ethanol, with some agreeing on the potential risks of denatured ethanol while others focus on historical consumption patterns. No consensus is reached regarding the health implications of swallowing 70% ethanol.

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Participants mention various factors that could influence the health risks, such as the specific grade of ethanol, the presence of denaturants, and individual tolerance levels. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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If you accidentally swallow a tiny amount of 70% ethanol in a lab, would you put yourself at a health risk?
 
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Not likely. You need to define 'tiny', however. Lab grade ethanol has been denatured. Not so good to drink. Make you sick. One professor at college used to denature his ethanol with phenolthalein. Baaad ju ju! ...and bad doo doo too.
 


I was spraying a bottle, and more accurately a minuscule amount got in my mouth.
 


People have been drinking it for five millennia. You need to drink close to half a liter of pure ethanol at once to put yourself in danger.

As chemisttree pointed out though, no one knows what other nasty chemicals might be mixed in with the ethanol. Methanol is often present and it's considerably more dangerous. But still you'd probably have to drink substantial amounts (quarter of a cup?) to cause permanent harm.
 


hamster143 said:
People have been drinking it for five millennia. You need to drink close to half a liter of pure ethanol at once to put yourself in danger.

As chemisttree pointed out though, no one knows what other nasty chemicals might be mixed in with the ethanol. Methanol is often present and it's considerably more dangerous. But still you'd probably have to drink substantial amounts (quarter of a cup?) to cause permanent harm.

Half a litre!?

That would be like drinking a about litre of something like vodka at once, and I think that would be more than enough to make you quite out of it :)

Anyway... analytical grade ethanol isn't denatured... is it?
It depends exactly what grade of EtOH you're using in the lab, and if it is denatured.
 


minerva said:
Half a litre!?

That would be like drinking a about litre of something like vodka at once, and I think that would be more than enough to make you quite out of it :)

In Russia it is considered normal for an adult to be able to drink a bottle (0.5 l) of vodka at once without experiencing any outward ill effects. For mass celebrations such as weddings, organizers would typically provide one 0.5 l bottle of vodka and at least one 0.75 l bottle of wine per attendee.

Two bottles at once will probably knock you out, you'll sleep for 12 hours and wake up severely dehydrated and with a bad headache, but without permanent damage.

It's quite hard to drink yourself to death, because, unless you push yourself to drink really fast, you'll pass out before you had a chance to drink the lethal dose.
 


Some is denatured and some is not . And sometimes they denature it with methanol .
They sell everclear in the liquor store which is 95% ethanol .
Since you said it was 70% what is the other 30% .
 


hamster143 said:
In Russia it is considered normal for an adult to be able to drink a bottle (0.5 l) of vodka at once without experiencing any outward ill effects. For mass celebrations such as weddings, organizers would typically provide one 0.5 l bottle of vodka and at least one 0.75 l bottle of wine per attendee.
Is it for this reason that marriages don't last long in Russia? :smile:
 


The other 30% would be distilled water. Its been 2 weeks, and I feel fine. It was a very small amount. The alcohol was sprayed from a bottle, and some got in my mouth.
 
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good old 140 proof
 

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