Improved MOND Model for Galaxy Cluster Kinematic Data

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around a modified version of the Modified Newtonian Dynamics (MOND) model, specifically its application to galaxy cluster kinematic data. Participants explore the challenges of obtaining relevant data for testing this modified model against larger cosmic structures, particularly in the context of the Missing Mass problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a modification to MOND that may perform better than the standard model at the galactic scale and seeks kinematic data for galaxy clusters to test this hypothesis.
  • Another participant questions whether the original poster's institution has resources to find the necessary data.
  • A later reply humorously suggests that the Internet is a resource for finding the information.
  • Participants share a link to the NASA/IPAC Extragalactic Database (NED) as a potential source for the required data.
  • One participant acknowledges the usefulness of the NED link but notes the challenge of filtering data to distinguish between elliptical and spiral galaxies, suggesting the need to combine it with data from Galaxy Zoo.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the best sources for kinematic data, with multiple suggestions provided. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the effectiveness of the proposed modifications to MOND and the specific data requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of clarity regarding the specific data needed, and there are limitations in filtering the data based on galaxy classification.

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I have a modification to MOND that appears to work much better than 'Standard' MOND at the galactic scale. I want to test this model now on larger structures. Does anyone know where I can find kinematic data on galaxy clusters, preferably some 'gold' standard that people have been examining for years. I know that the Missing Mass is a classic problem and that Galaxy Clusters are a problem for MOND as well as λCDM. I need basically the mass of the total cluster, the radius of each galaxy, and the rotational velocity of the galaxy.
 
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Does your school/university/wherever you're working at on this project not have resources for you to use to find this information?
 
Drakkith said:
Does your school/university/wherever you're working at on this project not have resources for you to use to find this information?
Yes, we do. It's called "The Internet".
 
Chronos said:
Unclear what you are looking for, but, this might be useful https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/
Thanks. Very helpful once you get the hang of how the query works. Unfortunately there's no classification data so in order to weed out the ellipticals from the spirals you need to merge it with the Galaxy Zoo

http://data.galaxyzoo.org/

But eventually I got what I was after.
 

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