Impulse and Momentum: Find Common Velocity & Fraction of Kinetic Energy

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The discussion revolves around a collision problem involving two cars, focusing on the concepts of impulse and momentum. The original poster presents a scenario where a moving car collides with a stationary car, leading to questions about their common velocity after the impact and the fraction of kinetic energy remaining post-collision.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of common velocity using conservation of momentum and question how to determine the fraction of kinetic energy remaining after the collision. There is discussion about calculating initial and final kinetic energies and the ratio of these values.

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Some participants have provided calculations for kinetic energy before and after the collision, while others clarify the distinction between finding the difference in kinetic energy and the fraction of initial energy remaining. There is an acknowledgment of correct calculations, but confusion remains regarding the interpretation of the problem's requirements.

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Participants note that the second car is stationary before the collision, which influences the initial kinetic energy calculation. There is also mention of an answer from an external source that raises questions about its validity.

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A 1550kg car, traveling with a velocity of 12m/s plows into a 1220kg stationary car. During the collision the two cars lock bumpers and then move together as a unit. (a) what is tehir common velocity just after the impact?
(b) What fraction of the initial kinetic energy remains after the collision.

(a) Pf=Pi

(m1+m2)vf=m1vi1
(1550kg+1220kg)vf=1550kg(12m/s)
2770kgvf=18600kg m/s

vf=6.71 m/s
I know my answer for part A is correct but part B i really have no idea how to approach it.
 
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rmarkatos said:
A 1550kg car, traveling with a velocity of 12m/s plows into a 1220kg stationary car. During the collision the two cars lock bumpers and then move together as a unit. (a) what is tehir common velocity just after the impact?
(b) What fraction of the initial kinetic energy remains after the collision.

(a) Pf=Pi

(m1+m2)vf=m1vi1
(1550kg+1220kg)vf=1550kg(12m/s)
2770kgvf=18600kg m/s

vf=6.71 m/s
I know my answer for part A is correct but part B i really have no idea how to approach it.
What is the initial kinetic energy of the system just before impact? What is the kinetic energy of the system immediately after impact? What is the ratio of the 2 values?
 
would the kinetic energy of the system just be the kinetic energy of the object the first car since the second one was stationary.

By the way the answer to the question is .559J from the odd selected answer section but i am not sure how to get the answer

ke=1/2mv^2
(1/2)(1550kg)(12m/s)^2
ke=111,600J

would the kinetic energy after be the sum of masses of the 2 cars with the shared final velocity?

ke=1/2mv^2
=(1/2)(2770kg)(6.71m/s)^2
=62358J the difference is not equal to .559J
 
rmarkatos said:
would the kinetic energy of the system just be the kinetic energy of the object the first car since the second one was stationary.

By the way the answer to the question is .559J from the odd selected answer section but i am not sure how to get the answer

ke=1/2mv^2
(1/2)(1550kg)(12m/s)^2
ke=111,600J

would the kinetic energy after be the sum of masses of the 2 cars with the shared final velocity?

ke=1/2mv^2
=(1/2)(2770kg)(6.71m/s)^2
=62358J the difference is not equal to .559J
Your calcs are correct, but they did not ask for the difference, they asked for the fraction of initial energy left. KE_f/KE_i = ??
 
ohhhhh your right thanks for clearing that up for me that makes a big difference
 

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