Induced EMF, bar moving through magnetic field

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The discussion focuses on deriving the expression for the induced EMF in a metal bar moving through a magnetic field created by a current-carrying wire. The participant successfully integrates the magnetic field equation to find the B-field at a distance from the wire and applies the motional EMF formula. For determining which point is at a higher potential, the right-hand rule indicates that positive charges move towards point 'a', making it the higher potential point. The participant confirms their calculations and reasoning, concluding that their approach is correct. The conversation emphasizes understanding the relationship between magnetic fields and induced EMF in moving conductors.
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Homework Statement


A long, straight wire as shown below carries a constant current I. A metal bar with length L is moving at a constant velocity V as shown. Point ‘a’ is a distance ‘d’ from the wire. a) Derive an expression for the EMF induced in the bar. b) Which point ‘a’ or ‘b’ is at a higher potential?
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Homework Equations


B=μI/2πr for a straight wire. EMF=Blv for motional EMF.

The Attempt at a Solution


For part a) I split up the bar into a bunch of small segments of length dr, a distance "r" away from the wire. so dB=μIdr/2πr. Integrating that from point (a) to point (a+b) I get B=(μI/2π)ln((a+b)/a). While I feel reasonably confident about that part, I thought about it a bit more, and I am not sure how multiplying the B-field, μI/2πr by the length, dr, really makes sense, am I forgetting something important? But assuming that is right, I just plug that into EMF=Blv, and get my answer.

Part b) I feel stuck on, only thing I could thing of was using the equation B=μI/2πr and plugging in and (a) and (a+b) for r. Since if I plug in (a) it will be a greater value, then the EMF will be greater there.
 
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The B field is not segmented into small sections dB. B is not a differential here.
Do you know the Blv law? It's the expression for emf of a bar of length l moving with velocity v perpendicularly to a B field such that B, l and v are all orthogonal to each other. Now, what is the right expression for a differential element of emf based on this law?
 
rude man said:
The B field is not segmented into small sections dB. B is not a differential here.
Do you know the Blv law? It's the expression for emf of a bar of length l moving with velocity v perpendicularly to a B field such that B, l and v are all orthogonal to each other. Now, what is the right expression for a differential element of emf based on this law?
I worked on it some more and got d(EMF)=B(r)vdr which simplifies to d(EMF)=(μI/2πr)vdr, with limits for the right side of "a" to "a+b". Also B(r) is the B-field a distance "r" away from the wire.
Forgot to add that for part b) I used the right hand rule and got the the magnetic force, Fb is pointing towards point a for a positive charge inside the rod, so the positive charges will go towards point a and the negative charges towards point b, so point a is at a higher potential.
 
timnswede said:
I worked on it some more and got d(EMF)=B(r)vdr which simplifies to d(EMF)=(μI/2πr)vdr, with limits for the right side of "a" to "a+b". Also B(r) is the B-field a distance "r" away from the wire.
Forgot to add that for part b) I used the right hand rule and got the the magnetic force, Fb is pointing towards point a for a positive charge inside the rod, so the positive charges will go towards point a and the negative charges towards point b, so point a is at a higher potential.
That looks 100% right.
 
rude man said:
That looks 100% right.
Great, thanks!
 
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