Inelastic collision and Hook’s law

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving an inelastic collision where a bullet compresses a spring after hitting a block. The user attempts to find the mass of the block using conservation of momentum and energy equations, initially misapplying the formulas. Clarification is provided that since the bullet sticks to the block, the correct energy equation should involve the combined mass of the bullet and block. The user struggles with the algebra and the application of the equations, particularly in handling the square root and the terms involving mass. Ultimately, the key point is that the user needs to correctly incorporate the combined mass in the calculations to find the mass of the block.
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Homework Statement


a bullet of mass 0.005kg traveling at 120m/s hits a block at rest that falls and compresses a spring (k=99n/m) to a maximum compression of 0.121m what is the mass of the block? (solve using momentum)
m1=0.005kg
m2=?
v1=120m/s
v`=?
k=99n/m
x=0.121m

Homework Equations


m1v1=(m1+m2)v`

Ee=Ek

Et=Et`

The Attempt at a Solution


attempt one
Ee=Ek
1/2kx^2=1/2m1v^2
v=squareroot((kx^2)/m1)
v=17m/s
m1v1=(m1+m2)v`
0.005(120)= (0.005+ m2)17
0.005(120)/17=(0.005+ m2)
0.03529=(0.005+ m2)
0.03529-0.005=m2
0.030=m2

I got it wrong and my teacher will not tell me the answer I can't see were i went wrong
 
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Does the bullet stick to the block? If so, ½kx² should be equal to ½(m1 + m2)v² (instead of ½m1v²).
 
yes the bullet sticks to the block and i am trying to figure out what m2 is so I am not sure how to incorporate ½(m1 + m2)v² (instead of ½m1v²).
 
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Solve for v in terms of m1 and m2 and substitute it back in the momentum equation.
 
v=squareroot((kx^2)/(m1+m2)

m1v1=(m1+m2)v

m1v1=(m1+m2)squareroot((kx^2)/(m1+m2)

m1^2v1^2=m1+m2((kx^2)/(m1+m2))

then the m1+m2 cancel iam sorry i not getting this i just can't see where iam going wrong

Or did you mean
m1v1=(m1+m2)v

v=m1v1/(m1+m2) & v=squareroot((kx^2)/(m1+m2)
so
m1v1/(m1+m2)=squareroot((kx^2)/(m1+m2)

(m1v1)^2/(m1+m2)^2 = (kx^2)/(m1+m2)

(m1v1)^2/(m1+m2) = (kx^2) (brought m1+m2 over)

(0.005*120)^2/(m1+m2) = 1.449459

0.36=1.4 (m1+m2) (mutiplied both sides by (m1=+m2))

0.36= 0.007247295 + 1.4m2

0.352752705= 1.4m2
0.2519=m2
? is that it or did i mess up again
 
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yellowmax31 said:
v=squareroot((kx^2)/(m1+m2)

m1v1=(m1+m2)v

m1v1=(m1+m2)squareroot((kx^2)/(m1+m2)

m1^2v1^2=m1+m2((kx^2)/(m1+m2))

then the m1+m2 cancel iam sorry i not getting this i just can't see where iam going wrong

They don't cancel. One of the (m1 + m2)'s is under a square root.
 
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