Initial Tension Of Parallel Spring System

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To calculate the initial tension in a parallel spring system, the equation F = (k1 + k2)x is used, where F is the total force, k1 and k2 are the spring constants, and x is the displacement. The initial tension can be expressed as (k1 + k2)x - F, indicating that the total force must overcome the initial tension to stretch the springs. The discussion highlights confusion around the term "pretension" and emphasizes the need for clarity in problem statements. A drawing of the system is suggested for better understanding. The conversation concludes with a consensus on the correct formulation for calculating initial tension in the system.
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Homework Statement


How to calculate initial tension or pretension in a system of two parallel springs.
F=5.33213N
K1+K2=53.0597
x=0.095

Individual springs have initial tension of 0.25N so I would expect an answer of 0.5N but I can't get there.

Homework Equations


F=(k1+k2)x

The Attempt at a Solution


Total force applied - Initial tension = (k1+k2)x
Total force applied - (k1+k2)x = Initial tension = 0.29?
 
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Could you please restate the problem exactly as it reads? And provide a drawing perhaps? Also, I have never seen the word pretension used that way. Ever.
 
Those pretentious springs! Such over-inflated senses of self-worth!
 
AlephNumbers said:
Could you please restate the problem exactly as it reads? And provide a drawing perhaps? Also, I have never seen the word pretension used that way. Ever.
Calculate the initial tension of two springs in parallel by treating them as a single spring. Initial tension as in the force needed to begin extending the spring. Ktotal is the sum of individual spring constants and total force is shared between both springs.
 

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I would say that (k1 + k2)x - F = initial spring tension, not F - (k1 + k2)x.
 
Think about the initial state of the springs. The tension in them can be expressed as (k1 + k2)[x][/0] and then the force F further stretches the springs to the value (k1 + k2)x. Thus, (k1 - k2)x - F = initial tension.
 
AlephNumbers said:
I would say that (k1 + k2)x - F = initial spring tension, not F - (k1 + k2)x.
But Fafter equilibrium=ktotal*x
where Ftotal is F required to overcome initial tension+Fafter equilibrium
so Ftotal-Initial Tension=ktotal*x
 
Yeah that looks good. Thank you for clearly and concisely representing the quantities.
 
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