Why is initial velocity confusing during free fall?

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Initial velocity during free fall can be confusing due to the context of the motion. When a ball is thrown upward with an initial velocity of 20 m/s, this is its velocity at time zero. As it reaches the peak of its trajectory, the velocity decreases to zero before it begins to fall back down, gaining speed in the negative direction. The initial velocity for calculations depends on the specific segment of the motion being analyzed; if the ball is dropped from rest, the initial velocity is zero. Understanding the direction and phase of motion is crucial in determining the appropriate initial velocity for displacement calculations.
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initial velocity confusion! please help!

hello all,
i am slightly confused about initial velocity during free fall
if a ball is being thrown in the air, and the velocity time graph shows 20m/s at 0 seconds, and -20m/s at 4 seconds, which is when the ball drops
if i want to calculate the displacement, i know that i can use the formula d=(vo)(t) +0.5(a)(t^2)
with vo being initial velocity
why is it that i would have to put 0 for vo? why isn't it 20m/s?
 
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Which displacement are you talking about? (I'm assuming that the ball is thrown vertically)
 
I'm not sure I understand your question. If a ball is thrown with initial velocity of 20 m/s, then that's your initial velocity. The V0 just means velocity at t=0. If a ball is dropped or released then its V0 is 0.
 
the ball is thrown vertically, displacement being the change in distance. oksanav: why is it that If a ball is dropped or released then its V0 is 0?, but then why would the v-t graph show 20m/s at 0 seconds?
 
When the ball's thrown initially, it has a velocity of 20 m/s, but as it reaches the top, its velocity goes to zero. After that, its velocity increases, now pointing down, reaching 20m/s just before hitting the ground. Depending on which part you're calculating, you're initial velocity will change.
 
moomoocow said:
the ball is thrown vertically, displacement being the change in distance. oksanav: why is it that If a ball is dropped or released then its V0 is 0?, but then why would the v-t graph show 20m/s at 0 seconds?

If a ball is dropped, there usually is no initial velocity, but there can be some. But in that case, it is a throw. It's all about directions.
 
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