Integral of Natural Log Part II

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The integral of ln(x+1) can be solved effectively using substitution. By letting u = x + 1, the integral simplifies to ∫ln(u) du. Applying integration by parts, the result becomes (x + 1)ln(x + 1) - (x + 1) + C. The discussion highlights the importance of substitution to avoid circular reasoning in the integration process. This method provides a clear path to the solution without getting stuck in repetitive calculations.
wubie
Hi,

I am still having trouble with taking the integral of the following:

integral of ln(x+1) dx

I am trying to do it by parts but I end up getting stuck. I had no problem doing:

integral of ln x dx

But I can't seem to get

integral of ln (x+1) dx


Let u = ln (x+1) then du = 1/ (x+1)

Let dv = dx then v = x.

So then

integral of ln (x+1) dx =

ln(x+1)*x - integral of x/(x+1) dx

I then though that I would integrate the last part by parts again.

Let u = x then du = dx

Let dv = 1/(x+1) then v = ln(x+1)

So then

integral of x/(x+1) dx =

x*ln(x+1) - integral of ln(x+1) dx.

So far I now have

integral of ln (x+1) dx =

ln(x+1)*x - [x*ln(x+1) - integral of ln(x+1) dx]

But then all I end up getting is

integral of ln (x+1) dx = integral of ln (x+1) dx

So I am back to where I started. What am I doing incorrectly?

Any help is appreciated. Thankyou.
 
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you know the integral of ln[x] and now u want integral of ln[x+1]?
Is it just me or do I hear x+1 begging to be substituted??
 
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What is wrong with me tonight? I can't see anything. >8(

Thanks stoffer.

Cheers.
 
no prob. we all have our moments
 
\int \ln(x+1) dx
let u=x+1
then du=1 dx
so you have
\int \ln(u) du
which is:
now you can apply the formula I gave you in the other thread so you get:
u \ln u - u = (x+1) \ln (x+1) - (x+1)

FYI derivation of the formula:

\int \ln(x) dx = \int \ln(x) * 1 dx
now by parts we have:
u=\ln(x)
dv=1dx
so
du=\frac{1}{x} dx
v=x
so
\int 1 * \ln(x) dx=\int u dv = uv+C_1-\int v du =
x \ln x +C_1- \int x* \frac{1}{x} dx=x \ln x +C_1- \int 1dx = x \ln x +C_1- x+C_2=
x \ln x -x +C
 
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