Integral with hyperbolic: cosh x

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the integral ∫(1/(1+cosh(x))) and its relation to discounting investments. Participants explore various methods and substitutions to solve the integral, which is part of a larger mathematical problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • Felix expresses difficulty in solving the integral and mentions a known answer, which is challenged by others.
  • One participant questions whether the derivative of tanh(x) matches the integrand, prompting clarification on the integrand's form.
  • A method involving a substitution to simplify the integral is proposed, but the manipulation of the resulting integral is questioned.
  • Another participant suggests that the correct answer is tanh(x/2) + C, indicating a potential error in the original claim of tanh(x) + C.
  • Participants discuss hyperbolic identities and their relevance to solving the integral, drawing parallels to trigonometric identities.

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There is no consensus on the correct evaluation of the integral, with multiple competing views regarding the correct answer and methods to reach it. Some participants agree on the use of hyperbolic identities, while others remain uncertain about the manipulations involved.

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Participants reference various substitutions and identities, but the discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps or assumptions needed to reach a definitive conclusion.

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I cannot reach the answer for this integral which is part of a bigger question related to discounting investments. I know what the answer to the integral is and have tried all the substitutions and tricks I know. Any pointer would be great!

∫(1/(1+cosh(x))) = tanh(x) + C

Thanks, Felix
 
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Well, does:
\frac{d}{dx}tanh(x)=\frac{1}{\cosh^{2}(x)} equal your integrand?
 
No, the integrand is 1/(1+cosh(x))
 
The integral is readily evaluated by using:
\int\frac{dx}{1+\cosh(x)}dx=\int\frac{dx}{1+\cosh(x)}\frac{1-\cosh(x)}{1-\cosh(x)}dx=\int\frac{1-\cosh(x)}{-\sinh^{2}(x)}dx
 
FelixHelix said:
No, the integrand is 1/(1+cosh(x))
Correct!
So, what must the purported answer be called?
 
I see,thats a good trick i hadnt thought of using. But how would you manipulate the integral you end up with?
 
arildno said:
Correct!
So, what must the purported answer be called?
?? I'm not sure??
 
FelixHelix said:
?? I'm not sure??

Maybe what is called TOTALLY WRONG!

To give you a hint:
The correct answer is tanh(x/2)+C, not tanh(x)+C
 
yes a typo indeed - apologies. What substitution do u use to get there though - i don't see it!
 
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First off:
You can easily do the integral the way I indicated.
THEN, find the appropriate hyperbolic identities for half-arguments (very analogous to the more well-known half-angle formulas for the trig functions). The result will simplify to tanh(x/2)
 
  • #11
We have:
\sinh(x)=2\cosh(\frac{x}{2})\sinh(\frac{x}{2}),\cosh(x)=\cosh^{2}(\frac{x}{2})+\sinh^{2}(\frac{x}{2})
Note the similarity to the trig identities!
You'll probably also need the fundamental identity:
1==\cosh^{2}(\frac{x}{2})-\sinh^{2}(\frac{x}{2})
 
  • #12
Ill take a look in the morning - thanks for your help!
 

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