Integrating a Definite Integral with an Undefined Function at One Endpoint

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of the function \( x\sqrt{x^2 - 3} \) from 1 to 2. Participants are exploring the implications of the function being undefined at the lower limit of integration due to the square root of a negative number.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the nature of the function at \( x=1 \) and whether it can be treated as an improper integral. There are attempts to clarify the definition of the square root in the context of complex numbers and the implications of branch choices.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants questioning the original poster's interpretation and others suggesting that the problem may contain a typo or an expectation of a specific approach regarding complex numbers. No consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the function is not defined at \( x=1 \) and discuss the necessity of defining the square root as a complex number. There is mention of preparing for an exam, which may influence the expectations around the problem.

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Homework Statement


integrate from 1 to 2 x(x^2-3)^(1/2) with respect to x.

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The Attempt at a Solution


i attempted using numerical approximations but at x=1, the function is not defined so is there a way to combine improper integrals with this?

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I read your problem as $$\int_{1}^{2} x\sqrt{x^{2} - 3}\,dx$$ & used the substitution ##u = x^{2} - 3## then ##\frac{1}{2}du = x\,dx## so it's no improper integral. I'm not sure why you say the function is not defined at x=1.
 
fourier jr said:
I read your problem as $$\int_{1}^{2} x\sqrt{x^{2} - 3}\,dx$$ & used the substitution ##u = x^{2} - 3## then ##\frac{1}{2}du = x\,dx## so it's no improper integral. I'm not sure why you say the function is not defined at x=1.

It's not defined because at x=1 because 1-3 is negative and square root of a negative is not defined. You would have to properly define the square root as a complex number to be able to integrate.
 
Dick said:
It's not defined because at x=1 because 1-3 is negative and square root of a negative is not defined. You would have to properly define the square root as a complex number to be able to integrate.

So how do I define the square root as a complex number?
 
argh sorry about that but I did notice that when I tried ##\int^{2}_{1} \frac{x\,dx}{\sqrt{x^2 - 3}}## just in case I misread the original post
 
Aceix said:
So how do I define the square root as a complex number?

If ##x^2-3## is negative then the complex square roots are either ##i \sqrt{3-x^2}## or ##-i \sqrt{3-x^2}##. You have to pick which one you want. This is called 'choosing a branch'. Why are you doing this problem?
 
Dick said:
If ##x^2-3## is negative then the complex square roots are either ##i \sqrt{3-x^2}## or ##-i \sqrt{3-x^2}##. You have to pick which one you want. This is called 'choosing a branch'. Why are you doing this problem?
Saw it in a book(preparing for an exam).
 
Aceix said:
Saw it in a book(preparing for an exam).

The problem has two possible answers since you need to make a branch choice. If you aren't really doing complex numbers, then possibly i) they just expect you to say it's not defined or ii) it's a typo.
 
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Dick said:
The problem has two possible answers since you need to make a branch choice. If you aren't really doing complex numbers, then possibly i) they just expect you to say it's not defined or ii) it's a typo.
thanks!
 

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