Integrating on Compact Manifolds

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The problem involves integration on compact manifolds, specifically showing that the integral of the product of two continuous functions over the product of two compact manifolds equals the product of their integrals. The context is rooted in analysis on manifolds, with references to coordinate patches and partitions of unity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Fubini's theorem and the implications of continuity and compactness. There are attempts to clarify how to handle the k-volume term and the composition of coordinate charts. Some express frustration over perceived complexities in the problem setup.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with various approaches being considered. Some participants suggest using Fubini's theorem, while others are questioning the handling of specific terms and the overall setup. No consensus has been reached, but guidance regarding the use of partitions of unity and the properties of continuous functions on compact sets has been mentioned.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of working within single coordinate patches and the need to consider the supports of the functions involved. There is an acknowledgment of the potential complexity introduced by the Jacobian and the integration process over the product manifold.

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Homework Statement


This problem is in Analysis on Manifolds by Munkres in section 25. R means the reals
Suppose M \subset R^m and N \subset R^n be compact manifolds and let f: M \rightarrow R and g: N \rightarrow R be continuous functions.

Show that \int_{M \times N} fg = [\int_M f] [ \int_N g ]

The hint states to consider the case where supports of f and g are contained in coordinate patches.

Homework Equations


I know the general formulation of integration over a compact manifold when the support of the function is contained in a single coordinate patch. Also, I know how to integrate functions on manifolds using partitions of unity.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the general idea. First I must prove that this holds when the support of f and g are in a single coordinate patch. Then using partitions of unity, I want to notice the integral is just the sum of integrals over finitely many coordinate patches. What I can't get is the part where the support of f and g are in a single coordinate patch:

Suppose supp(f) \subset V with \phi : U \rightarrow V \subset M and supp(g) \subset V' with \psi : U' \rightarrow V' \subset N.

Then \int_{M\times N} fg = \int_{U \times U'} (fg) \circ (\phi\times\psi) V_k(\phi \times \psi) but I don't know how to deal with this...
 
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I think you just want to use Fubini's theorem. The integral of |fg| exists because f and g are continuous on compact sets, so they are uniformly continuous and bounded. Doesn't that work?
 
The problem is that I don't know how to split up the k-volume term and I don't know how to deal with phi x psi. Unless what I've done so far is completely wrong. I've been stuck for days now and I'm just frustrated and missing something obvious, I think.
 
AnalysisQuest said:
The problem is that I don't know how to split up the k-volume term and I don't know how to deal with phi x psi. Unless what I've done so far is completely wrong. I've been stuck for days now and I'm just frustrated and missing something obvious, I think.

I think you are over complicating it. If you are working on a single coordinate patch and you've applied a partition of unity then the functions you are integrating are continuous and the domains over which you are integrating have compact support. The Jacobean is differentiable. Everything is bounded. I think you can just say it's Fubini's theorem on R^m x R^n. I don't think you need to do anything complicated.
 
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