Integration by parts homework help

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the integral \(\int_0^{\infty} e^{-st} t \cos(t) dt\) using integration by parts and Laplace transformations. Participants are exploring methods to solve this integral, which involves concepts from calculus and differential equations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss attempts at integration by parts and the application of Laplace transformation rules. There are questions about the validity of the approaches taken, particularly regarding the handling of the integral and the results obtained.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the Laplace transform of \(\cos(t)\), but there is no clear consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

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Participants mention challenges with indeterminate forms and the difficulty of applying L'Hôpital's rule. There is also a note about an image not loading, which may have contained relevant work or details.

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[tex]\int_0^{infinity} \ e^{-s*t}*t*cos(t) dt[/tex]

I tried integration by parts with u=t*cost and dv=e^(-s*t) but that didn't get anywhere.

I then tried: [tex]\L{t^n*g(t)}=(-1)^n d/ds[\int_0^{infinity} \ e^{-s*t}*cos(t) dt[/tex] but again nothing was working.

This is a Laplace Transformation where ft=t cos(t)
 
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Dustinsfl said:
I then tried: [tex]\L{t^n*g(t)}=(-1)^n d/ds[\int_0^{infinity} \ e^{-s*t}*cos(t) dt[/tex] but again nothing was working.

Do you mean that you tried applying the rule

[tex]\mathcal{L}\{t^n g(t)\}=(-1)^n\frac{d^n}{ds^n}\mathcal{L}\{g(t)\}[/tex]

If so, that should be fairly easy, provided that you know what the Laplace transform of [itex]\cos(t)[/itex] is.
 


The problem was I get cos(t)/(s*e^(-st)) which is in determinant and using l'hospital's rule didn't help.

Also, the integral after separation by parts is now e time sin then you get an in determinant form with sin.
 


Dustinsfl said:
The problem was I get cos(t)/(s*e^(-st)) which is in determinant and using l'hospital's rule didn't help.

How on Earth are you getting something that depends on [itex]t[/itex] after integrating over [itex]t[/itex]? :confused:

Show your work so I can see where you are going wrong.
 


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Both methods attempted

Never mind the image won't load.
 

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