Integration by Parts Homework Help

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the integration of the function sin^n(x) using integration by parts. Participants are exploring the formulation of recursive relationships and addressing issues related to the representation of integrals in their equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to clarify the correct formulation of the integral and its components, questioning the placement of terms in the equations. There is a focus on understanding how to derive one integral expression from another and the implications of different representations.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between different integral expressions, with some participants providing guidance on how to manipulate the equations. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or resolution to the problem at this stage.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express difficulties in interpreting attached documents and formatting issues with LaTeX equations, which may affect their ability to follow the discussion. There are also references to specific steps in the integration process that are not fully resolved.

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Hi, I attached the question.Just integral trouble.

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I don't understand the expression you have written after "This is what I want". You have an integral in the denominator of an expression. I don't see how this is supposed to result in a recursion formula. Have you checked you attachment to make sure all expressions are correctly written?
 
There isn't it is (n-1)/n (times) the integral It isn't supposed to be in the denominator.

∫〖sin〗^n x dx= (-〖sin〗^(n-1) xcosx)/n)+ ((n-1)/n)∫〖sin〗^(n-2) x dx

thx
 
Jbreezy said:
There isn't it is (n-1)/n (times) the integral It isn't supposed to be in the denominator.

∫〖sin〗^n x dx= (-〖sin〗^(n-1) xcosx)/n)+ ((n-1)/n)∫〖sin〗^(n-2) x dx

thx
I find that hard to read. Do you mean ##\int \sin^n(x).dx = -\frac1n \sin^{n-1}(x)\cos(x) + \frac{n-1}n \int \sin^{n-2}(x).dx##? Looks right.
 
Yeah that is what I mean.

See I'm trying to figure out how to get to that. On my attachment there is a problem before that where you get

\int \sin^n(x).dx = -\frac1n \sin^{n-1}(x)\cos(x) + \frac{n-1}n \int \sin^{n-2}(x)cos^{2}.dx
They tell you to replace cosx^2 in the second integral and get to
\int \sin^n(x).dx = -\frac1n \sin^{n-1}(x)\cos(x) + \frac{n-1}n \int \sin^{n-2}(x).dx

I'm having trouble with that.
 
How come it doesn't work then I copy and pasted your code for the equation? Anyways my first equation in the attachment I need to get to the one you have written above. Just look at my attachment it is all there/
 
For some reason, I can never read the .docx files you attach. I see the plain text, but equations and diagrams are blank.
In the latex, you left out the double hash (##) at start and end.
Jbreezy said:
##\int \sin^n(x).dx = -\frac1n \sin^{n-1}(x)\cos(x) + \frac{n-1}n \int \sin^{n-2}(x)cos^{2}.dx ##
They tell you to replace cosx^2 in the second integral and get to
##\int \sin^n(x).dx = -\frac1n \sin^{n-1}(x)\cos(x) + \frac{n-1}n \int \sin^{n-2}(x).dx##

I'm having trouble with that.
I don't understand how you got the first of those two equations. You should have
##\int \sin^n(x).dx = [-\sin^{n-1}(x)\cos(x)] + \int (n-1)\sin^{n-2}(x)\cos^2(x).dx##
Replacing the cos2 in that gives:
##\int \sin^n(x).dx = [-\sin^{n-1}(x)\cos(x)] + (n-1)\int \sin^{n-2}(x)(1-\sin^2(x)).dx##
##\int \sin^n(x).dx = [-\sin^{n-1}(x)\cos(x)] + (n-1)\int \sin^{n-2}(x).dx - (n-1)\int \sin^{n}(x).dx##
##n\int \sin^n(x).dx = [-\sin^{n-1}(x)\cos(x)] + (n-1)\int \sin^{n-2}(x).dx ##
etc.
 

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