Integration help with normalizing wave function

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Homework Statement


ψ(x,t) = Ae-λxe-iwt

Normalize this and solve for A

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\int_{-∞}^{∞}|ψ|<sup>2</sup>dx = 1<h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> I got to A<sup>2</sup>\int_{-∞}^{∞}e^{-2λx}dx<br /> <br /> The solution manual multiplies it by 2 and only goes from 0 to ∞ instead of from -∞ to ∞. I&#039;m trying to do it from -∞ to ∞ and I should get the same answer as the manual, but I&#039;m not. They get a finite non-zero answer, but integrating what I got to, I have -\frac{A^{2}}{2λ}e^{-2λx} and now, plugging in the limits of integration in for x, it will give me infinity as the answer.<br /> Anyone see where I made a mistake? Thanks.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
I got to A2\int_{-∞}^{∞}e^{-2λx}dx

The solution manual multiplies it by 2 and only goes from 0 to ∞ instead of from -∞ to ∞. I'm trying to do it from -∞ to ∞ and I should get the same answer as the manual, but I'm not. They get a finite non-zero answer, but integrating what I got to, I have -\frac{A^{2}}{2λ}e^{-2λx} and now, plugging in the limits of integration in for x, it will give me infinity as the answer.
Anyone see where I made a mistake? Thanks.
The integral as written above is infinite. It is not the same as integrating from ##0## to ##\infty## and multiplying by ##2##. Just plot the integrand to see this. If the integrand were ##e^{-2\lambda |x|}## (with absolute values) then it would be true.
 
jbunniii said:
The integral as written above is infinite. It is not the same as integrating from ##0## to ##\infty## and multiplying by ##2##. Just plot the integrand to see this. If the integrand were ##e^{-2\lambda |x|}## (with absolute values) then it would be true.

It is supposed to be absolute value. I keep forgetting about that. But now I'm getting 0 as the answer, since the ∞ in the exponent will make it look like this when I evaluate the integral over the limits:

-\frac{A^{2}}{2λ}[e^{-2λ∞}-e^{-2λ∞}]

Which is just

-\frac{A^{2}}{2λ}[0 - 0]

Which equals 0.

I know I'm doing something wrong, though.

Thanks for the response.
 
leroyjenkens said:
It is supposed to be absolute value. I keep forgetting about that. But now I'm getting 0 as the answer, since the ∞ in the exponent will make it look like this when I evaluate the integral over the limits:

-\frac{A^{2}}{2λ}[e^{-2λ∞}-e^{-2λ∞}]
What integral did you perform? What were the upper and lower limits?
 
jbunniii said:
What integral did you perform? What were the upper and lower limits?

Upper limit was ∞ and lower was -∞. I plug them in for x, and since it's the absolute value of x, they're both just ∞, which means it turns to 0.
 
leroyjenkens said:
Upper limit was ∞ and lower was -∞. I plug them in for x, and since it's the absolute value of x, they're both just ∞, which means it turns to 0.
So you are trying to perform this integral:
$$\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-2 \lambda |x|} dx$$
Because of the absolute value, you can't evaluate the integral without breaking it into parts. (If you believe otherwise, then you need to produce an antiderivative for ##e^{-2\lambda|x|}##.) Try writing it this way:
$$\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} e^{-2 \lambda |x|} dx =
\int_{-\infty}^{0} e^{-2 \lambda |x|} dx + \int_{0}^{\infty} e^{-2 \lambda |x|} dx$$
Next step: simplify the integrand in each case by replacing ##|x|## with something simpler.
 
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