Integration in Polar Coordinates (double integrals)

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The discussion revolves around evaluating an improper double integral of the function e^-(x^2+y^2) over the entire plane R^2, specifically using polar coordinates. The original poster attempts to show that this integral equals pi, while exploring the conversion from Cartesian to polar coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transformation of the integral into polar coordinates, noting the change in differentials and the limits of integration. There are questions about the integration process, particularly regarding the inclusion of the r term and the limits of integration. The original poster expresses confusion about integrating e^-(r^2) and the placement of limits in the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on the correct form of the integral in polar coordinates and suggest that the polar form is necessary for evaluating the integral. There is acknowledgment of mistakes made in earlier attempts, and some participants share insights into the relationship between the Cartesian and polar forms of the integral.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of assumptions regarding the behavior of the function e^-(x^2) and its antiderivative, as well as the implications of limits in the context of improper integrals. The original poster also raises questions about the integral of e^(-x^2) and its relation to pi, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts.

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Homework Statement



We define the improper integral (over the entire plane R^2) I as a double integral [-inf,inf]x[-inf,inf] of e^-(x^2+y^2)dA as equal to the lim as a-> inf of the double integral under Da of e^-(x^2+y^2)dA where Da is the disk with the radius a and center at the origin.

Show that the I (the original double integral) equals pi.

Sorry, this is rather difficult to type.

Homework Equations



Other than what I've said, I know that the equation of a disk is x^2 + y^2 = r^2


The Attempt at a Solution



With what I was given, I was able to substitute (x^2 + y^2) with r^2 resulting in the double integral of e^-(r^2). I also found the domain of r to be between 0 and a, and guessed that theta would range from 0 to 2pi. The problem I run into here is how to integrate the function. I first integrated the function with respect to theta because I thought that would be easier, but if I do that, I get the double integral [0,a]x[0,2pi] which doesn't seem right because of the a. Even if it was right, I don't know how to integrate the function of e^-(r^2). Working backwards, I deduced that I need to get an r into the equation somehow so I could integrate the function, but I don't know where to pull the other r from.
 
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When you change from a rectangular (or Cartesian) iterated integral to a polar iterated integral, your differentials change from dx dy or dy dx to r dr d[itex]\theta[/itex]. Your integral will look like this:
[tex]\int_{\theta = 0}^{2\pi} \lim_{a \rightarrow \infty}\int_{r = 0}^{a} e^{-r^2} r dr d\theta[/tex]

Click on the integral to see the LaTeX script I used.
 
Mark44 said:
When you change from a rectangular (or Cartesian) iterated integral to a polar iterated integral, your differentials change from dx dy or dy dx to r dr d[itex]\theta[/itex]. Your integral will look like this:
[tex]\int_{\theta = 0}^{2\pi} \lim_{a \rightarrow \infty}\int_{r = 0}^{a} e^{-r^2} r dr d\theta[/tex]

Click on the integral to see the LaTeX script I used.

Thanks a bunch. I realized my mistake with the r shortly after, but I had made a careless mistake because e^0 doesn't equal 0, but rather 1. I didn't realize that till I retried the problem with the integral you provided. Where the limit sign actually is doesn't really matter right? I could have it outside both integrals and the answer I get should be the same as if it was inside the integral right? By the way, the answer I got was pi.

But just wondering, would the value of [tex]\int_{x = -infinity}^{infinity} e^{-x^2} dx[/tex] be the sqrt of pi. I assumed it would be so, but I don't really get the concept behind it. I tried doing the integral in terms of polar coordinates but by substituted x with rcos[tex]theta[tex]I still get a function I have no idea how to integrate. Are polar coordinates necessary?[/tex][/tex]
 
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Yes, the polar form is necessary, because e^(-x^2) does not have an antiderivative that is expressible in terms of elementary functions. Changing to polar form allows you to carry out a "trick" to let you evaluate the integral.

[tex]\int_{y = 0}^{\infty}\int_{x = 0}^{\infty} e^{-x^2 - y^2} dx dy~=~\int_{\theta = 0}^{2\pi} \lim_{a \rightarrow \infty}\int_{r = 0}^{a} e^{-r^2} r dr d\theta[/tex]

Carry out the inner integration (a simple substitution will do), then take the limit, and finally carry out the outer integration. What you end up with will be equal to the value of the iterated integral in Cartesian form. Because the x and y variables are uncoupled, the iterated integral is equal to [tex]\left(\int_{x = 0}^{\infty} e^{-x^2} dx\right)\left(\int_{y = 0}^{\infty} e^{-y^2} dy\right)[/tex]
 

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