Integration Using the arctan rule

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the definite integral \(\int_0^4 \frac{dt}{4t^2 + 9}\), with participants exploring the application of the arctan integration rule. The subject area is calculus, specifically integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the arctan integration rule but encounters discrepancies in the coefficient of the resulting expression. Some participants question the substitution process, particularly regarding the differential \(dt\) when substituting \(u = 2t\).

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Participants are actively discussing the integration process and the implications of their substitutions. There is an acknowledgment of differing results from computational tools, and guidance has been offered regarding the substitution of differentials. Multiple interpretations of the integration steps are being explored.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the correct application of the substitution method and how it affects the final result, particularly the missing factor in the integration process.

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Homework Statement



Our question is \int (from 0 to 4) dt/ ((4t^2) + 9)
(For a better representation, because I fail at LaTeX: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?...&f5=4&f=DefiniteIntegralCalculator.rangeend_4 )


Homework Equations



So we have the rule:

\int du/(a^2 + u^2) = (1/a) arctan (u/a) + C

The Attempt at a Solution



So, using a = 3, and u = 2t (because the rule says that at the bottom, there is a^2 + u^2, so we take the square root of 9, and 4t^2)
I get 1/3 arctan( 2t/3) from 4 to 0
1/3 arctan( 8/3) - 1/3 arctan (0)
=.404..
However, Wolfram Alpha, and my graphing calculator seem to both give me .202, and wolfram alpha says the coefficient for the final solution is 1/6 arctan..., whereas I got 1/3 arctan..., and I cannot see how it becomes 1/6..

Thanks for reading!
 
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Wreak_Peace said:

Homework Statement



Our question is \int (from 0 to 4) dt/ ((4t^2) + 9)
(For a better representation, because I fail at LaTeX: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?...&f5=4&f=DefiniteIntegralCalculator.rangeend_4 )


Homework Equations



So we have the rule:

\int du/(a^2 + u^2) = (1/a) arctan (u/a) + C

The Attempt at a Solution



So, using a = 3, and u = 2t (because the rule says that at the bottom, there is a^2 + u^2, so we take the square root of 9, and 4t^2)
I get 1/3 arctan( 2t/3) from 4 to 0
1/3 arctan( 8/3) - 1/3 arctan (0)
=.404..
However, Wolfram Alpha, and my graphing calculator seem to both give me .202, and wolfram alpha says the coefficient for the final solution is 1/6 arctan..., whereas I got 1/3 arctan..., and I cannot see how it becomes 1/6..

Thanks for reading!

When you substitute u=2t, you also have to substitute du=2*dt. So also replace dt with du/2. That's the factor of two you are missing.
 
Thanks, me and a couple of friends were stumped on that one.
 
Wreak_Peace said:
\int_0^4 \frac{dt}{4t^2 + 9}
...
So, using a = 3, and u = 2t

When you put u = 2t, what do you put for dt?
 

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