Finding Internal Resistance with a Graph: How to Derive r+δr from the Gradient?

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In summary: R is small.In summary, the conversation discusses a circuit with an oscilloscope, a SG with internal resistance, and a variable resistor. The goal is to plot V_R vs R and 1/V_R vs 1/R to derive r+δr from the gradient. The graph of 1/V_R vs 1/R should give a straight line and the graph of V_R vs R should resemble a log or hyperbola shape. The relationship between V_R and R can be derived from the circuit laws.
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I got a simple circuit with an oscilloscope, a SG (with internal resistance), and a variable resistor.
r and R are in series.
for V_R=V_0*(R/R+r)
I measured a series of R and V_R values from the oscilloscope.
Now, I'm supposed to plot those values on a graph 1/V_R vs 1/R.
This should give me a straight line, and I am supposed to derive r+δr from the gradient.
But how? and from where? The graph of V_R vs R gave an expontential (I had a plateau at approx. 300 ohms)..I'm really confused
 
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1/V_R = 1/V_0 (R+r)/R = 1/V_0 (1+r/R)
If you set y=1/V_R and x=1/r, this equation is just y=1/V_0 (1+r*x), a straight line, and you can get r.

The graph of V_R vs R gave an expontential (I had a plateau at approx. 300 ohms)
It is not an exponential function.
 
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Argh! You are right about the shape! It resemble a log graph actually!
Many thanks for your help.
 
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safat said:
Argh! You are right about the shape! It resemble a log graph actually!
No, it follows the shape y=a - b/x, as you can see in the original equation.
 
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edit. as I misunderstood your answer.

TO recap:
the graph for 1/V_R vs 1/R should give me a straight line
and the graph for V_R vs R and hyperbola?
Right?
 
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ok, last question, and then I promise I will stop bothering you!
Can you explain me why (in a broad sense) the graph is an hyperbola? Which kind of relationship there is between V_R and R to lead to an hyperbola?
 
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You can derive V_R=V_0*R/(R+r) from the usual circuit laws. This is equivalent to V_R=V_0 - V_0*(r/R+r)
 

1. What is internal resistance-gradient?

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