Interpreting the Problem Statement

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The problem involves group theory, specifically concerning normal subgroups and conjugacy classes. It asks to prove a relationship between a conjugacy class contained in a normal subgroup and the sizes of conjugacy classes formed by the subgroup.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the meaning of the problem statement, particularly regarding the nature of the conjugacy class ##\mathcal{K}## and its relationship to the subgroup ##H##. Questions are raised about whether the conjugacy classes are formed by the action of ##H## or ##G##, and the implications of the notation used.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion about the definitions and implications of the terms used in the problem. Some have offered interpretations and raised questions about the grammar and clarity of the statement, indicating a need for further exploration of the problem's assumptions.

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There are concerns about the clarity of the problem statement, particularly regarding the definition of conjugacy classes and the role of the element ##x##. Participants are questioning whether certain assumptions about the normal subgroup and conjugacy classes are valid.

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Homework Statement



Assume that ##H## is a normal subgroup of ##G##, ##\mathcal{K}## is a conjugacy class of ##G## contained in ##H##, and ##x \in \mathcal{K}##. Prove that ##\mathcal{K}## is a union of ##k## conjugacy classes of equal size in ##H##, where ##k = |G : HC_G(x)|##

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Okay. I need a little help interpreting this problem. Is the problem asking me to show that ##\mathcal{K} = \bigcup_{i \in I } \mathcal{H}_i## with ##|I| = k##, where the ##\mathcal{H}_i## are the conjugacy classes formed by letting ##H## act on itself by conjugation, or are the ##\mathcal{H}_i## the conjugacy classes formed by letting ##G## act on itself by conjugation that are contained in ##H##?
 
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Can you write this in the original language, which ever it is? Is ##\mathcal{K}## the set of all ##gHg^{-1}## or what is meant here, i.e. conjugates of what? And what is a class, i.e. if it is obviously different from a subset, how can it be included in ##H##? And last but not least, what is ##x##? And which kind of grammar is prove that is? No subject anywhere near.

Do they mean ##xHx^{-1} \subseteq H \,##?
 
fresh_42 said:
Can you write this in the original language, which ever it is? Is ##\mathcal{K}## the set of all ##gHg^{-1}## or what is meant here, i.e. conjugates of what? And what is a class, i.e. if it is obviously different from a subset, how can it be included in ##H##? And last but not least, what is ##x##? And which kind of grammar is prove that is? No subject anywhere near.

Do they mean ##xHx^{-1} \subseteq H \,##?

Sorry. It should read "Prove that ##\mathcal{K}##..." I just edited it. Besides that, I typed up the problem word for word.
 
This is strange, sorry.
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##\mathcal{K}## is a conjugacy class of ##G## ...
This lacks a specification. Conjugacy class of what? Of ##\{e\}##, of ##G##, or of ##H##, or of something else. Conjugacy class of ##G## would be ##gGg^{-1}=G## which makes no sense.
The guess would be ##H##, but this is not self-evident.
... contained in ##H##, and ##x \in \mathcal{K}##.
Then ##x## is a set of the form ##g_xHg_x^{-1}## and ##x=g_xHg_x^{-1} \subseteq H## which means ##g_x \in N_G(H)## the normalizer of ##H##. Is there a reason not to say this right away? So the claim is ##|N_G(H)| = |G : HC_G(g_x)|##, is that correct?

Edit: My bad, this doesn't make sense either as ##N_G(H)=G##. So sorry, I obviously don't understand the question.
 
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