Intro Thermodynamics equilibrium problem

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The problem involves a thermal equilibrium scenario between a block of ice and a block of silver, with specific heat capacities and phase changes considered. The original poster presents a situation where the ice is initially at 263 K and the silver at 1006 K, seeking to determine the equilibrium temperature and the phase of the water at that temperature.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the heat transfer between the ice and silver, questioning the assumptions made about temperature changes and phase transitions. One participant suggests calculating the heat required to change the state of the ice and the heat removed from the silver to assess the final temperature.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify the heat transfer process and the phase changes involved. Some participants provide guidance on calculating heat changes, while others explore the implications of the original poster's assumptions. There is no explicit consensus on the final temperature or phase of the water.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem due to the multiple phase changes and the high initial temperature of the silver, which may influence the final equilibrium state. The original poster's earlier calculations led to confusion, prompting further exploration of the assumptions made.

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Homework Statement



A 3.6-kg block of ice originally at 263 K is placed in thermal contact with a 13-kg block of silver (cAg = 233 J/kg-K) which is initially at 1006 K. The H2O and silver system is insulated from any other heat transfer.

1)At what temperature will the system achieve equilibrium?
2)What will be the phase of the H2O at equilibrium?

CONSTANTS
g = 9.81 m/sec2
π = 4*arctan(1)
Atmospheric Pressure = 101,300 Pa
Density of Freshwater = 1000 kg/m3
Density of Saltwater = 1028 kg/m3
Specific Heat Capacity of Water = 4186 J/K*kg
Specific Heat Capacity of Ice = 2200 J/K*kg
Latent Heat of Fusion for Water = 333,400 J/kg
Latent Heat of Vaporization for Water = 2,260,000 J/kg
Gas Constant R = 8.134 J/mol-K
σb = 5.670 X 10-8W m-2K-4
k = 1.37 X 10-23 J/K
0°C = 273.15K

Homework Equations


Q=m*c*ΔT
Q=m*C

The Attempt at a Solution


In the attachment below.
As a note I used the specific heat of water(4186 J/K*kg) for C sub water,T sub i for water as 373.15 K and T sub i for silver as 1006 K.

I used the fact the heat from the block of silver is released and absorbed by the block of ice. The ice will have to raise its temperature of 263 K to 273.15 K, then it go through a phase change turning to water, then the waters temperature is raised to 373.15 K, then the water goes through another phase change to turn into steam, the final temperature of the steam is then the temperature of the system in thermal equilibrium. I made the previous assumptions due to the block of silver is at 1006 K which is 723 °C(way above the boiling point of water). The first time I worked out the problem I got a ridiculous answer(it came out to a figure that suggested the system increased in temperature). I then changed a few signs, which then gave me a more reasonable answer, that still gave me a wrong answer. I'm starting think that the ideal gas law may play a part in this, since the water has turned into steam.
 

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From your calculations, how much heat would you have to add to raise the temperature of the water from ice at -10 C to liquid water at 100 C?

How much heat would you have to remove from the silver to cool it from 1006 K to 373 K (100 C)?

What does this tell you about whether the final temperature is going to be >100C or <100C?

Chet
 
Thanks for the help! I figured it out. The ice cube goes from 263 K to 273.15 K, then a phase change from solid to liquid, then the liquid(water) increases in temperature to the final temperature,which is the temperature of equilibrium for the system.
 

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