Investigating the Magnus Effect on Solar Wind

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The discussion centers on the applicability of the Magnus effect to solar wind, with participants questioning its relevance due to the solar wind being primarily composed of particles rather than a fluid medium. It is noted that the flat design of solar sails suggests that if the solar wind behaved like a fluid, they would resemble aerofoils. The Magnus effect is said to be ineffective unless the sail size exceeds thousands of kilometers, given the mean free path of particles in the heliosphere. Additionally, while the solar wind is fast and supersonic, its contribution to pressure is minimal compared to radiation pressure, which is the primary factor affecting solar sails. Overall, the consensus indicates that the Magnus effect likely has limited influence on solar wind dynamics.
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I can't find authorative sources on whether the magnus effect works on the solar wind.

I thought the solar wind was mostly particles, not a fluid medium, and therefore it would not.

I thought this was the reason for the flat nature of solar sails. If the solar wind acted like a fluid medium, solar sails ought to be aerofoils like boat sails or airplane wings.
 
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First of all the Magnus effect should only work if we are not in the ballistic limit. The mean free path of the molecules is pressure dependent and I don't know what the pressure distribution is. But in interstellar medium hydrodynamic effects should not show until your sail is much larger than thousands of kilometres. You might find the pressure and thus the mean free path in the heliosphere somewhere on the web. The wikipedia article on the Magnus effect states that it probably has an effect on the planets. The solar wind is extremely fast, so some effect should be expected (it is also supersonic but I have no idea what that means).
 


The dominant fraction of the pressure is radiation - catch it, reflect it or lose it, shape does not really matter. Solar wind is just a small bonus to the pressure.
 
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