Is \( A \) Isomorphic to \( \dfrac{R<X,Y>}{((X^2+1)X,(X^2+1)Y,YX)} \)?

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The discussion revolves around the isomorphism between a specific algebraic structure \( A \) and the quotient of the non-commutative polynomial ring \( \dfrac{R}{((X^2+1)X,(X^2+1)Y,YX)} \). The focus is on defining a homomorphism and establishing properties such as surjectivity and the kernel of the mapping.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant defines \( A \) as a set of upper triangular matrices with specific entries and proposes a homomorphism \( f \) from \( R \) to \( A \).
  • Another participant questions the definition of the domain of \( f \) and the nature of the entries in \( A \), suggesting that the proposed homomorphism may not have the correct co-domain.
  • A subsequent reply clarifies that the entries \( a \) and \( b \) can be complex numbers, while \( c \) is real, and emphasizes that \( A \) is a set, not merely a matrix.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the nature of \( R\langle X,Y\rangle \) as a non-commutative polynomial ring and the mapping of \( c \) to a specific matrix form.
  • One participant argues that the surjectivity of \( f \) can be established through a specific representation of elements in \( A \) and suggests that this suffices to demonstrate the isomorphism.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions and properties of the structures involved, particularly regarding the nature of the entries in \( A \) and the correctness of the proposed homomorphism. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore various interpretations and implications of the definitions.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the entries of matrices in \( A \) and the precise nature of the polynomial ring involved. The discussion also highlights potential ambiguities in the original problem statement.

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let $x=\begin{bmatrix}i&0\\0&0 \end{bmatrix}$ and $y=\begin{bmatrix}0&1\\0&0 \end{bmatrix}$.

Define $A={{\begin{bmatrix}a&b\\0&c\\ \end{bmatrix}}where c\in\mathbb{R}}$

Show that A is isomorphic to $\dfrac{R<X,Y>}{((X^2+1)X),(X^2+1)Y,YX)}$

My work: Define $f:R<X,Y>\implies A$ by $f(X)=x$, $f(Y)=y$, and define $f$ to be an algebra homomorphism. Things to do: Show $(X^2+1)X$ etc. are in the kernel, which I have done.

Show $f$ is surjective, which I haven't been able to do. Finally I would need to show those elements are in fact the whole kernel in order to invoke the first isomorphism theorem
 
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I'm a bit confused...is the domain of $f$: $\Bbb R[X,Y]$, or does $R$ refer to some other ring?

Also, you state that $c \in \Bbb R$, but what about $a,b$?

If indeed all the entries of elements of $A$ are to be real, then $x$, as you have defined it, is not in $A$, so your proposed homomorphism does not have the right co-domain.

What does the original problem actually state? I feel we are missing something, here.
 
a,b can be complex numbers and yes R is the set of reals. A is a set by the way, not a matrix
 
Ok, so $A$ is the set of all upper triangular matrices in $\Bbb C_{2 \times 2}$ with real entries in the 2,2 position.

Also, just to clarify, by $\Bbb R\langle X,Y\rangle$ you mean the non-commutative real polynomial ring in two indeterminates, right?

Also, you are taking:

$f(c) = \begin{bmatrix}c&0\\0&c\end{bmatrix}$, yes?

If that is so, then writing:

$a = a_0 + a_1i$
$b = b_0 + b_1i$

we have, for:

$M = \begin{bmatrix}a&b\\0&c\end{bmatrix} \in A$:

$f(c + a_1X + (c - a_0)X^2 + b_0Y + b_1XY) = M$,

which shows $f$ is surjective.

Frankly, I think that's all you need to show, because $R\langle X,Y\rangle$ is *free* in $X$ and $Y$, and $f$ evidently annihilates the set of generators of the ideal, so $A$ IS (isomorphic to) the quotient of the free $\Bbb R$-algebra on two letters modulo the ideal generated by the generating set (using the universal properties of free algebras and quotient rings).

I hope that makes sense to you.
 

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