Is life on earth a one-time event?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the origins of life on Earth, specifically questioning whether all life has a single point of origin or if there may have been multiple foundation species. Participants explore the implications of these ideas, considering both theoretical and empirical evidence.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the level of confidence in the idea that all life on Earth originated from a single foundation species, suggesting the possibility of other genetic lines that may not have survived.
  • Others note that while many discussions assume a single origin, the details of life's origin remain unknown, leaving open the possibility of multiple origins.
  • One participant presents a probability argument, suggesting that chemical selection may have operated on various versions of life, ultimately resulting in the success of only one lineage, while highlighting the commonality of certain biological components across all life.
  • A participant references the Miller-Urey experiment as an example of prebiotic chemistry that could suggest similar processes might occur elsewhere in the universe.
  • Another participant challenges the notion of a single origin by mentioning ongoing research into non-DNA-based microbial life on Earth, which could represent remnants from Earth's early history that current tests may not detect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether life on Earth originated from a single foundation species or multiple origins, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights uncertainties regarding the definitions of "foundation species" and "origin of life," as well as the limitations of current research methodologies in detecting potential non-DNA-based life forms.

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What level of confidence can be assigned to the statement that all life on Earth has one point of origin - a foundation species? Also, is there any evidence that there may have been other genetic lines, other foundation species and their descendents, that did not survive.

I am not asserting or implying anything, I am only asking.
 
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It is, at its core, a probability argument. I suppose that it is possible to view the origin of life as chemical selection operating on different versions yet in the end, only one succeeded. It is worth noting that as far as we know, all life shares common polymers, Nucleic acids and protein catalysts. There are over 390 naturally occurring amino acids known, yet all living organisms consist of the same subset of 22 amino acids. There also seem to be some early indications that amino acids in this subset could be thermodynamically favored in prebiotic synthesis.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html#fundamental_unity
http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2009/04/ten-amino-acids.html
 
Moridin said:
It is, at its core, a probability argument.
Not necessarily. There is current active research looking for non-DNA-based microbial life here on Earth, assumedly left over from Earth's formative years. The idea that we've never seen evidence of it is that it would have slipped right through the cracks of all our current tests - whether that means not detected or merely not differentiated.
 

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