The discussion centers on the applicability of Helmholtz and Gibbs free energy beyond chemical reactions, with a focus on their relevance in phase transitions and nuclear reactions. It is noted that these energies are primarily associated with chemical processes, but their principles can extend to phase transitions where temperature and pressure remain constant. During a phase transition, the Gibbs free energy remains constant, as the heat transferred equals the change in enthalpy. The calculations presented demonstrate that the change in Helmholtz free energy during a phase transition equals zero, indicating no net energy change. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the limited but significant use of these thermodynamic concepts in contexts beyond traditional chemical reactions.