Is the Normal Force Correct in Your Friction Work Calculation?

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The discussion centers on calculating the work done by friction on a 19.1 kg block being dragged across a rough surface. The force of friction was initially calculated as 21.71 N, but the resulting work done by friction was incorrect due to an assumption that the normal force equals the block's weight. The correct approach involves adjusting the normal force to account for the vertical component of the applied force. By applying the equilibrium condition to find the actual normal force, the frictional force can then be recalculated using the coefficient of friction. This adjustment is crucial for accurately determining the work done by the frictional force.
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A 19.1 kg block is dragged over a rough, hor-
izontal surface by a constant force of 195 N
acting at an angle of angle 29.1 degrees above the
horizontal. The block is displaced 30.3 m,
and the coeficient of kinetic friction is 0.116.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 .

the question ask for he magnitude of work done by the force of friction.

I found the force of friction to be 21.71 N and but the answer I'm getting for Work of frictional force is wrong. i don't know what's the matter, am i reading the problem wrong or sumtin? Work of Frictional force = Ffr(x)(cos180) i used 30.3 for x like the problem gave.
 
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the_d said:
A 19.1 kg block is dragged over a rough, hor-
izontal surface by a constant force of 195 N
acting at an angle of angle 29.1 degrees above the
horizontal. The block is displaced 30.3 m,
and the coeficient of kinetic friction is 0.116.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 .

the question ask for he magnitude of work done by the force of friction.

I found the force of friction to be 21.71 N and but the answer I'm getting for Work of frictional force is wrong. i don't know what's the matter, am i reading the problem wrong or sumtin? Work of Frictional force = Ffr(x)(cos180) i used 30.3 for x like the problem gave.
{Work by Friction} = {Friction Force}*{Distance} =
= {Net Normal Force on Surface}*{Coeff of Friction}*{Distance}
= {(Block Weight) - (Normal Component Pulling Force)}*{Coeff of Friction}*{Distance} =
= {(19.1 kg)*(9.8 m/sec^2) - (195 N)*sin(29.1 deg)}*(0.116)*(30.3 m) =
= (324.6 J)


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the_d said:
A 19.1 kg block is dragged over a rough, hor-
izontal surface by a constant force of 195 N
acting at an angle of angle 29.1 degrees above the
horizontal. The block is displaced 30.3 m,
and the coeficient of kinetic friction is 0.116.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2 .

the question ask for he magnitude of work done by the force of friction.

I found the force of friction to be 21.71 N and but the answer I'm getting for Work of frictional force is wrong. i don't know what's the matter, am i reading the problem wrong or sumtin? Work of Frictional force = Ffr(x)(cos180) i used 30.3 for x like the problem gave.


if the block weighs 19.1 kg and the force is not parallel to the horizontal surface, what are all of the forces acting on the block? vertical components of gravity, the block's mass, and the "pulling force", and the horizontal components of the frictional force from the surface and the "pulling force", have to balance, right? if not, the block will be accelerating.

one way or the other, if w=f*d, the frictional force times the 30.3m should equal the total work done by the frictional force. do you have the "right answer" supplied to you?
 
the_d said:
I found the force of friction to be 21.71 N ...
You got this answer by assuming that the normal force equals the weight. Not true, since the applied force changes the normal force. Instead, solve for the normal force by applying the equilibrium condition:
\Sigma F_y = 0
F_n - mg + F_{applied}sin\theta = 0
Once you solve for F_n, the friction will be \mu F_n.
 
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