Is the One-Form d \theta Well-Defined at the North and South Pole on a 2-Sphere?

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The discussion centers on the well-defined nature of the one-form dθ at the north and south poles of a 2-sphere, particularly in the context of symplectic manifolds. Participants explore the implications of parametrization and the definition of forms on the sphere.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether dθ is well-defined at the poles, given the parametrization of the 2-sphere and the symplectic form Ω = sin(φ) dφ ∧ dθ.
  • Another participant argues that the parametrization is not well-defined at the north pole, suggesting the need for multiple charts to cover the sphere unambiguously.
  • A participant points out that the lack of global definition for a parametrization does not necessarily imply that the corresponding one-form is also not well-defined, drawing a comparison to S^1.
  • There is a discussion about the differences between S^1 and S^2, particularly regarding the ability to define a globally consistent area form on S^2 despite the parametrization issues.
  • One participant emphasizes that the area form can be uniquely patched to create a globally defined 2-form on S^2, which raises questions about the ambiguity of referring to the area form on the sphere.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the parametrization's lack of global definition for the one-form dθ. There is no consensus on whether dθ is well-defined at the poles, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the uniqueness of the area form on S^2.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the parametrization of the 2-sphere and its implications for defining forms, but do not resolve the mathematical steps necessary to clarify these issues.

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Hi,

The 2-sphere is given as example of symplectic manifolds, with a symplectic form \Omega = \sin{\varphi} d \varphi \wedge d \theta. Here the parametrization is given by (x,y,z) = (\cos{\theta}\sin{\varphi}, \sin{\theta}\sin{\varphi}, \cos{\varphi}) with \varphi \in [0,\pi],\ \theta \in [0, 2\pi).

Now my question is, at the points \varphi = 0, \pi, which are the north and the south pole, is the one-form d \theta well-defined? If yes, how? If not then how does one make \Omega globally well defined?

Thanks in advance :)

Ram.
 
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The parametrization itself is not well defined at the north pole. You will need at least two charts to cover the 2-sphere unambigously. Thus it is simpler to consider S^2 as embedded in \mathbf{R}^3 and define

\omega_u(v,w)=\langle u,v\times w\rangle

whre u\in S^2 and v,w\in T_u S^2.

Then you can show that this expression, in coordinates, is identical to the one you are given.
 
Thanks a lot for the reply. Now I understand what makes S^2 a symplectic manifold.

However, the parametrization not being well defined does not necessarily lead to the one-form not being well defined, does it? For example the usual parametrization \theta on S^1 is not well defined globally, however d \theta is. Something else happening with S^2?
 
Yes, you can wind R onto the circle but you can't wind torus (product of two circles) onto the sphere.
 
rbayadi said:
Thanks a lot for the reply. Now I understand what makes S^2 a symplectic manifold.

However, the parametrization not being well defined does not necessarily lead to the one-form not being well defined, does it? For example the usual parametrization \theta on S^1 is not well defined globally, however d \theta is. Something else happening with S^2?

In the case of S^1, people say that d\theta is a 1-form. This is sloppy because \theta is not defined at one point of S^1 (usually (-1,0)), but it is to be interpreted as such: "There is a globally defined 1-form \alpha on S^1 such that with respect to the usual angle parametrization \theta, \alpha=d\theta everywhere where \theta is defined." And indeed, if you take the chart of S^1 that covers the whole of S^1 except (1,0) and associates to a point its angle \theta', where the point (-1,0) is considered to have angle \theta'=0, you will find that d \theta = d\theta' everywhere where both these 1-forms are defined. And in particular, there is only one way to patch the local 1-form d\theta at (-1,0) to make it a global 1-form and that is to set it equal to d\theta' at that point.

In the case of S^2, the area form \sin{\varphi} d \varphi \wedge d \theta is not defined on a whole "half-slice" of S^2. Show that it can be patched in a unique way to give a globally defined 2-form on S^2, so that talking about "the area form \sin{\varphi} d \varphi \wedge d \theta on S^2" is not ambiguous.
 
Thank you.
 

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