Is the popular 4x4 winching strategy of a single block correct?

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The discussion centers on the effectiveness of using a single block in 4x4 winching strategies, questioning whether it truly doubles the pulling power as commonly claimed. It highlights that while a single block can change the direction of force, it may not actually increase pulling power due to friction considerations. Participants emphasize the importance of the winch's attachment point, noting that if the winch is anchored away from the vehicle, the mechanical advantage is diminished. The conversation suggests that the promotional materials often overlook these critical physics aspects. Ultimately, the effectiveness of the single block is contingent on its setup and the winch's anchoring position.
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Question – A single block reduces the force on the pull by ½ and double the length of the rope pulled and double the pulling force? This is the typical quote made on all popular 4x4 winching sites. I have found thishttp://www.hardworkingtrucks.com/winch-pulling-power/http://www.gowarn.com/warn-winches/winch-tips.aspxhttp://cdn.shptrn.com/media/mfg/437...ostPeopleDontKnowAboutWinching.pdf?1289591024Having considered the above I feel pulley being used just to change the direction of a force. Considering friction this would in fact reduce the pulling force of the electric winch and not increase the pulling force.The Question – Is the popular 4x4 winching strategy of a single block actually providing a doubling of pulling power (not considering friction) or not?
 
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The video is correct. Notice that the winch is on the mass being pulled.
You can use a free body diagram to work it out.
Done simply, if the winch reels in length L of rope, the fwd moves L/2 forward, so the work is FL/2 as opposed to FL without the setup.
 
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If the winch was not attached to the car but anchored a couple of meters from the snatch block (pulley) would the same forces apply.
My point being the lenth of the rope is only doubled as the winch is anchored to the car. No mechenichal advantage is being derived.
 
That's correct.
The video kinda skips over that part: they are selling the block not teaching physics. Notice they never actually say there is any advantage if the anchor is not the car... except being able to winch at an angle etc.
 
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