Is there any possibility for debunking?

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The discussion revolves around the potential for debunking pseudoscientific claims, specifically regarding animal learning behaviors. The original poster questions whether the forum can effectively address such claims, citing a specific article that makes extraordinary assertions about animal learning without adequate evidence. Participants emphasize the importance of peer-reviewed sources for credible discussions and suggest focusing on scientifically established knowledge about the transmission of learned behaviors among animals. The conversation concludes with a recommendation to rephrase the inquiry to better align with scientific understanding. Overall, the thread highlights the challenges of moderating discussions on pseudoscience while encouraging a more focused approach to legitimate scientific questions.
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I wondered, whether PF offers any possibility to debunk pseudoscientific claims? (Yes i know, the experiment to open a different section for it didnt work well. Maybe a private question?)
I ask this, because i met an article claiming surprising things about how different animals learned new things, while the individual animals could hardly met each other.
 
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Unfortunately, it takes to much work to moderate threads dealing with debunking pseudoscience.

However, you are talking about something that was published in an article. Is it in a peer-reviewed journal? If it is in a reputable enough source, then we may discuss the findings. You may PM me if you wish to keep the details private for now.
 
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DrClaude said:
Unfortunately, it takes to much work to moderate threads dealing with debunking pseudoscience.

However, you are talking about something that was published in an article. Is it in a peer-reviewed journal? If it is in a reputable enough source, then we may discuss the findings. You may PM me if you wish to keep the details private for now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect

That pseudoscientific article (i think the source don't worth mentioning) extrapolated that, and claimed, that horses also mysteriously learned how to avoid barbed wire, birds learned how to open milk bottles, etc.
I was suspicious to begin with, but it made me curious about how fast knowledge can spread between animals. I wondered how could i ask properly, what can be the basis of theese legends.
Anyway i think that this thread can be closed, that wiki article was enough debunk to start with, and i will phrase a correct question.
 
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it made me curious about how fast knowledge can spread between animals. I wondered how could i ask properly, what can be the basis of theese legends.
That is a valid question. You don't even have to mention the "hundredth monkey effect," simply ask about what science knows about the speed of transmission of learned behaviour.

Thread closed.
 
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