Isothermal Expansion and the 2nd Law

In summary, the book states that the second law is in two ways. The first way is that no process is possible whose sole result is the complete conversion of heat into work. The second way is that the entropy of an ideal monatomic gas should always be constant. However, if an isothermal expansion occurs, the entropy of the gas will increase.
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The book that I use (Concepts in Thermal Physics by S. and K. Blundell) states the second law in two ways. The way they state the Kelvin version is "no process is possible whose sole result is the complete conversion of heat into work." How does that fit in with the isothermal expansion of an ideal monatomic gas?
From the first law we have,
Delta(U)=0=-W(by gas)+Q(added to gas)
giving
W(by gas)=Q(added to gas)

Assuming there is no friction from the piston, this should be correct. However, this seems to suggest that isothermal expansion violates the second law if it is not part of a cycle. How do we reconcile it with the second law?
 
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For an ideal monatomic gas, the entropy is given by the Sackur Tetrode equation:

[itex]S(N,V,T) = N k_{B}( \log(\frac{\eta_{q}}{\eta})+\frac{5}{2});[/itex]
where
[itex]\eta_{q}\equiv (\frac{m k_{B}T}{2 \pi \hbar^{2}})^{\frac{3}{2}} [/itex] and [itex]\eta \equiv \frac{N}{V}[/itex].

For an isothermal expansion, [itex]T[/itex] and [itex]N[/itex] are constant. The change in entropy [itex]S_{f}-S_{i}[/itex] is expressed as

[itex]S_{f}-S_{i}= N k_{B} \log(\frac{V_{f}}{V_{i}})[/itex].

When the gas expands at constant temperature, the entropy increases.

Another way of looking at this would be that since heat is flowing to restore thermal equilibrium with the reservoir at temperature [itex]T[/itex], the entropy of the system and reservoir together must increase.
 
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The book that I use (Concepts in Thermal Physics by S. and K. Blundell) states the second law in two ways. The way they state the Kelvin version is "no process is possible whose sole result is the complete conversion of heat into work." How does that fit in with the isothermal expansion of an ideal monatomic gas?
From the first law we have,
Delta(U)=0=-W(by gas)+Q(added to gas)
giving
W(by gas)=Q(added to gas)

Assuming there is no friction from the piston, this should be correct. However, this seems to suggest that isothermal expansion violates the second law if it is not part of a cycle. How do we reconcile it with the second law?

I also have this book. One of the key words in that statement is the word 'sole'. In the isothermal expansion, the volume of the gas has changed, and thus the state of the gas at the start and end point has changed.

Since there is a net change in the state of the gas, the result of the process is that the gas has expanded and work done by gas = heat energy transferred by the first law. Therefore, the result of the process is NOT the sole conversion of heat into work.
 
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The way they state the Kelvin version is "no process is possible whose sole result is the complete conversion of heat into work." How does that fit in with the isothermal expansion of an ideal monatomic gas?

The important part of this formulation is the word "sole". This implies that the state of the thermodynamic system should be the same as in the beginning, i.e. it should have the original volume. In your example, the volume of the system has increased, so it does not contradict the formulation.
 
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Thank you very much
 

What is isothermal expansion?

Isothermal expansion is a thermodynamic process in which the temperature of a system remains constant while its volume increases. This can occur when a gas is allowed to expand into a larger volume or when a liquid is heated while being kept at a constant temperature.

What is the second law of thermodynamics?

The second law of thermodynamics states that in any energy transfer or transformation, some energy will be lost as unusable heat. This means that energy cannot be completely converted from one form to another without some loss of usable energy.

What is the relationship between isothermal expansion and the second law?

The second law of thermodynamics plays a role in isothermal expansion by setting limits on the efficiency of the process. It states that in an isothermal expansion, the work done by the expanding gas is equal to the heat absorbed from the surroundings. However, some of this heat will be lost as unusable heat, making the process less efficient.

What is an example of isothermal expansion in nature?

An example of isothermal expansion in nature is the expansion of air in the Earth's atmosphere. As air rises in the atmosphere, it expands due to the decrease in atmospheric pressure. This expansion occurs at a constant temperature, as the air is in thermal equilibrium with its surroundings.

How is isothermal expansion used in practical applications?

Isothermal expansion is used in many practical applications, such as in refrigeration and heat engines. In refrigeration, a gas is compressed and then allowed to expand isothermally, resulting in a decrease in temperature. In heat engines, isothermal expansion is used to convert heat energy into work. It is also used in the production of liquefied natural gas (LNG) and in the expansion of gases in turbines.

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