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zapperzero said:Yes. It is all good news, I honestly meant what I said: better late than never. Have you seen the July and August numbers they are referring to? I must have missed them.
OTOH I still haven't seen the data re: steam that they had promised to gather since June, iirc, the helicopter survey was pushed back to October (firmly in "next gov't's problem" land) and so on and so forth.
IMO, the reason we are getting any information at all is simple and has nothing to do with our goodwill: there is a line between "apparent bumbling inefficiency" and "outright lies, in violation of various laws". TEPCO and the J-gov are staying (to their credit, ultimately) JUST on the lawful side of that line.
EDIT: There are skeletons in the closet. Have you seen this?
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=3468442&postcount=288
The July and August measurements were used to estimate the ongoing release rate. They have published the estimates, but I have not seen the data or calculation details.
I understand your opinion, but in your comment you were talking about criminal. That would require the deficiencies to be either negligent or deliberate. If so I will wait for the Japanese courts to decide that issue, because I have no proof. I doubt that the technicians making the measurements after having their pay cut will be silent when that invrestigation gets going.
I don't know why they didn't sample the steam, but they were measuring the air and fallout offsite which is the cumulative effect of steam and gaseous releases and windblown contamination. Is there a reason that the portion due to steam was more important?
Yes I saw Tsutsuji's post and pointed out that I had seen indications that TEPCO knew about the 869 eartquake during the post-KK earthquake reviews and ignored it.
In short There are many problems included in this accident. As an engineer, I seek facts and solutions. It is tempting to try to make our posts memorable by using trigger words, like "criminal", but it isn't helpful in a search for truth. I am suggesting that we all think before we push the Submit Reply button. Is what I wrote fair? Is it supported by facts. If it is opinion, did I label it as my opinion and have I explained how I got there? Does it add to the discussion?