Japan Earthquake: nuclear plants - Daini (Plant 2)

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The discussion centers on the Fukushima Daini (Plant 2) nuclear plant's condition during and after the earthquake and tsunami events of March 11, 2011. Participants explore the plant's safety measures, the impact of the tsunami on reactor cooling systems, and the potential for catastrophic core damage. The conversation includes technical details about inspections, power loss, and the operational status of generators.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference reports indicating that Fukushima Daini was "near meltdown" and discuss the implications of this status.
  • There are mentions of visual inspections of the plant's containment vessels, with some units having completed inspections without finding abnormalities, while others are still pending.
  • Participants note that the earthquake analysis showed strain levels below the assessment standard, suggesting some structural integrity.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for catastrophic core damage had the plant lost power, with comparisons drawn to the situation at Fukushima Daiichi (Plant 1).
  • Some participants discuss the loss of off-site power and the operational status of generators, with conflicting accounts about the number of generators lost and the reliance on remaining power sources.
  • There is a discussion about the critical timing of the disaster and its impact on the plant's ability to stabilize the reactors, highlighting the efforts of the staff during the crisis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the specifics of the power loss and generator status, as well as the implications of the inspections and analyses. No consensus is reached on the overall safety and operational status of the plant during the crisis.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various reports and analyses, but there are limitations in the clarity of the information regarding the status of generators and the specifics of the inspections. Some assumptions about the operational conditions and safety measures are not fully detailed.

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There is a PCV inside / equipment inside PCV visual inspection schedule for Fukushima Daini on http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_120208_06-j.pdf page 27 (28/35). The visual inspection of unit 4 was performed from August to December, that of unit 1 is scheduled from December to March, and those of units 2 and 3 are not yet scheduled.

On page 15 (16/35) they say that they found nothing abnormal in units 1 and 4 during the visual inspections inside PCVs. On the same page, they say that as the temperature design value was exceeded in the suppression chambers, they need to assess the consequences (the nuclear safety commission of Japan requested it). Generally speaking, they have to check each design condition for each equipment, check if they were respected, and, if needed, assess the consequences.

On page 16 (17/35) they say they made an earthquake analysis finding that the largest strain for a reactor building was 0.11 E-3 at unit 3's 4th floor, in the south-east direction, which is smaller than the 2.0 E-3 assessment standard.
 
clancy688 said:
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T120209007089.htm "Fukushima No. 2 plant was 'near meltdown'"

"we" already knew this; cold shutdown was reached something like a week in, iirc.
 
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zapperzero said:
"we" already knew this; cold shutdown was reached something like a week in, iirc.
The point is that Fukushima Daini (Plant 2) was nearly in the same situation as Fukushima Daiichi (Plant 1). Had they lost power, then six units (three at FK2 and three at FK1) might have suffered catastrophic core damage rather than the three (Units 1, 2 and 3) at Fukushima Daiichi.
 
Astronuc said:
The point is that Fukushima Daini (Plant 2) was nearly in the same situation as Fukushima Daiichi (Plant 1). Had they lost power, then six units (three at FK2 and three at FK1) might have suffered catastrophic core damage rather than the three (Units 1, 2 and 3) at Fukushima Daiichi.

I think they lost off-site power too, but had working generators. Right?
 
zapperzero said:
I think they lost off-site power too, but had working generators. Right?
From the OP - Yomiuri citation:
On March 11, a 9-meter-high tsunami struck the No. 2 plant, while the No. 1 plant was hit by a 13-meter-high tsunami. The tsunami caused the No. 2 plant's seawater pumps, used to cool reactors, to fail. Of the plant's four reactors, three were in danger of meltdown.

Luckily, one external high-voltage power line still functioned, allowing plant staff in the central control room to monitor data on internal reactor temperatures and water levels.
. . . .
However, despite intense efforts by all employees, it took a long time to stabilize the reactors.

On March 11, about 2,000 employees of the No. 2 plant worked to stabilize the reactors. Some employees connected 200-meter sections of cable, each weighing more than a ton, over a distance of nine kilometers.

Masuda noted the timing of the disaster was critical in saving the plant.
. . . .
No nuclear plant should be so vulnerable! Had the earthquake/tsunami been 12 or 24 hrs later . . . .
 
zapperzero said:
I think they lost off-site power too, but had working generators. Right?

The other way around. They lost 9 out of 12 generators (all at units 1 and 2), but survived due to one remaining off-site connection. The status of the EDG:s was revealed in a mid-May press conference, two months after the first inquiries were sent to NISA from foreign safety authorities. (Until May, they kept "confirming" the status of the EDGs.)
 

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