Kinematics and Work-Energy problem with skier

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The discussion centers on the assumptions made in a kinematics and work-energy problem involving a skier landing on a slope. Participants question why the teacher assumed the final velocity (vf) does not change upon landing, arguing that this contradicts the physics of an inelastic collision with the ground. They highlight that the skier's trajectory and landing angle significantly affect the final speed, with a steep slope potentially leading to a loss of vertical velocity. Concerns are raised about the design of the ski ramp depicted in the drawing, suggesting it is unrealistic and dangerous. The conversation concludes with the notion that while landing parallel to the slope could minimize velocity loss, some kinetic energy will always be absorbed during the landing process.
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Why did my teacher assume that vf does not change upon landing in the last sub-question? This makes no sense to me. Is there such a way that the skier can change direction of vf without changing the magnitude of it? Otherwise, the skier will collide in an inelastic collision with the ground (since he does not bounce off) and this means that all the vertical velocity is lost. I would calculate vertical velocity of vf and use that to find work done.
 

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Excellent question. I think you are right in challenging teacher: after all most of the final speed is vertical (at least 36 m/s, horizontal at most 10 m/s) so landing parallel to the slope would require an angle of 75 degrees wrt horizontal, a lot more than the 35 degrees in the drawing.

(a 75 degree slope could arc to 0 degrees so that speed isn't lost -- clearly not provided for in the drawing).

The design of the ski ramp in the drawing is murderous. If you look at a real ramp you see that the ground follows the dotted line much closer than the straight one that says 100 m, so that skiers don't fall to their death.
 
One doubt remains: even the skier lands parallel to the ground, there is still a collision, a loss of velocity, no?
 
Can the skier ever land without losing some velocity?
 
If we factor out the friction, the speed lost is the speed perpendicular to the slope; you flex your knees to absorb that part of the kinetic energy. So the unlikely case where landing velocity and slope are parallel and the skiers trajectory is tangent to the slope at the touchdown point would not require flexing and not involve loss of tangential speed (which is all speed at that point). Subsequently following an arc to redirect the speed more horizontally doesn't necessarily require flexing -- it only requires some resistance to high g forces.
 
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