Kinematics - free fall/projectile

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The problem involves kinematics, specifically the motion of two objects: one thrown upwards with an initial velocity and another falling from a height. The goal is to derive an equation for their collision position.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the equations of motion for both objects, questioning the correctness of their formulations and the signs used for displacement. There is an exploration of how to express the position of both objects in relation to time.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the equations, suggesting different ways to express the motion of the objects. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved, but no consensus has been reached on the correct formulation.

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Participants are grappling with the signs in their equations and the initial conditions of the objects. There is a mention of confusion regarding the displacement being negative and how to set up the equations based on the initial positions.

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Homework Statement


The problem is that basically, if an object is thrown up with a certain initial velocity (v), and an object at height h directly above the first object falls (intial velocity=0), write an equation for the position they collide. (position denoted as x)


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ok I tried this question so many times (actually about 3 times). This is the equations I used

object 1 (falling down)
-x= -g/2t^2

object 2
h-x= vt - g/2t^2


I isolated them for x, but the answer is wrong. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with my 2 equations?

edited to add: this is what the 2 equations solved to:
x=gh^2/(2v^2)
 
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rhodium said:
-x= -g/2t^2

object 2
h-x= vt - g/2t^2

Hi rhodium! :smile:

If v is measured up, then s must be measured up also,

so the falling one is x= -gt^2/2 (or x = h - gt^2/2 , depending where you're starting from :wink:)

and the other one is … ? :smile:
 
hi,

i am still confused. i put - on the s because the displacement is negative. but sicne the initial position is h, then it would make sense to write it that way. thanks!

ok, so, for equation 2 (object going up), would it be like this:

y=vt-g/2t^2 where x=y?

i hope i got it right.

edited to add:

I isolated for x.
x=h-gh^2/(2v^2)
 
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rhodium said:
ok, so, for equation 2 (object going up), would it be like this:

y=vt-g/2t^2 where x=y?

Hi rhodium! :smile:

Yes, if x = h - gt2/2, then y = vt - gt2/2. :smile:
I isolated for x.
x=h-gh^2/(2v^2)

:confused:

No … put x = y, and solve for t … then use that t to get x. :smile:
 
all right,

thank you for teaching me. i was really stuck before.
 

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