Kinetic friction between the box and the ramp

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of kinetic friction for a box sliding down a 30-degree ramp with an acceleration of 1.2 m/s². Participants express confusion about determining the normal force and the force of friction without knowing the mass of the box. The importance of using a free body diagram to establish force equations is emphasized. Additionally, there is a need to calculate the acceleration down the ramp without friction to solve the problem effectively. Understanding these concepts is crucial for accurately determining the coefficient of kinetic friction in this scenario.
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Coefficient of kinetic friction

:confused: so I am working on the force of friction and overcoming friction
i know that the coeffcient of friction is equal to the kinetic force over the normal force and i can get these when hte system is on a horisantal surface
But i don't understand how to get them with an incline

Problem: a box slides down a 30 degree ramp with an acceleration of 1.2 m/s squared. Determine the coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the ramp.

im not sure i even know where to start, well i have a free body diagram
 
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ok so i got that the force perpendicular (x) - (subtract) the force of friction = mass*acceleration of x
but the question does not give you a mass!
how do i determine the normal force if i don't have a mass?
 
What is the acceleration down the ramp with no friction?

Dorothy
 
um it says 1.2 m/s squared
 
That is WITH friction. What is it without friction?
 
how do i find that out? i don't know what the force of friction is in this problem
 
allblonde said:
how do i find that out? i don't know what the force of friction is in this problem

Well, let me put it to you this way. You have a freebody diagram. What are your force equations? Let's take a look at those.
 
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