Kinetic/Potential Energy Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating potential energy (PE) and kinetic energy (KE) for a cliff diver with a mass of 90 kg at a height of 20 meters. The potential energy at the top of the cliff is determined to be 17,640 J, while the kinetic energy at that point is zero, as the diver is assumed to fall from rest. Participants are trying to find the point during the dive when the kinetic energy equals 450 J and the speed at which the diver enters the water. The conversation emphasizes the conservation of energy principle, indicating that the total mechanical energy remains constant if no external forces act on the diver. The problem-solving approach focuses on understanding energy transformations rather than directly calculating velocity at specific points.
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Homework Statement



Given
mass = 90kg
distance = 20m above sea level.

Find his potential and kinetic energy at the top of the cliff, at what point in his leap is his kinetic energy 450 J and at what speed does he enter the water?

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I can solve for PE and KE at the top of the cliff. Have trouble calculating when his KE = 450 J and his velocity entering the water.
 
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Hello, mathpat. Could you please state the problem exactly as given to you? It's not clear what's going on at the top of the cliff initially.
 
sure it's as follows:

Sherlock, a cliff diver, is preparing for his final cliff jump into the ocean. He has a mass of 90 kg and stands on a cliff 20m above the sea. What is his PE and KE at the top of the cliff? At what point in his leap is his KE 450J? At what speed does he enter the water?
 
OK. What did you get for the initial KE and PE at the top of the cliff?

At any point during the fall, what quantity is the same as at the top of the cliff?
 
I got 17640J for PE. And that would also equal the KE at the top of the cliff?
 
OK for the PE. Why would the KE equal the PE?
 
Due to no resistance or friction from a free-fall position
 
mathpat said:
Due to no resistance or friction from a free-fall position

I don't follow. What determines the KE of an object?
 
whether the particle or object is moving. Wow ok lol. So the KE = 0 J at the top of the cliff.
 
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mathpat said:
So the KE = 0 J at the top of the cliff.

Yes. Since the problem didn't state whether or not Sherlock jumps from the cliff with an initial velocity, I think you are going to have to assume that he doesn't jump. He just falls from rest.

So, good. His initial KE is zero.

Can you think of a way to find the point where the KE is 450 J?
 
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I'm seriously stumped when it comes to that part. I know I can't plug in that value in KE = 1/2 mv^2 because that would not give me a point.
 
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mathpat said:
I know I can't plug in that value in KE = 1/2 mv^2 because that would not give me a point.

Right, you already know that KE is 450 J at the point you are interested in. So, you don't need to calculate KE there. You are dealing with energy concepts here. Energy is really important due to a very basic principle that you have studied. Can you think of what that principle is?
 
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