Kite string force, negative or positive>

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The discussion focuses on calculating the horizontal and vertical components of a 12-lb force exerted by a kite string at a 45-degree angle. The tension in the string is modeled as acting in both directions along the string, leading to considerations about the direction of the force components. It is suggested that the vertical component should be negative since the force is pulling down towards the person holding the string. The horizontal component's sign can vary based on the observer's position relative to the kite. Ultimately, the main goal is to determine the magnitudes of the force components, which are typically expressed as positive values.
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Homework Statement



A kite string exerts a 12-lb pull (|F|) on a kite and makes a 45 degree angle with the horizontal. Find the horizontal and vertical components of F.

Homework Equations



Pythagorean

The Attempt at a Solution



12*sqrt(2) for both horizontal and negative

My question is whether to assign a positive or negative to either value? It seems that either could work with the limited assumptions in the question? Or would it be more appropriate for the y force to be negative?
 
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Hi 2clients, well actually this really does depend. When you have a taught string, as we have in your question, there is a tension in the string. Now this tension can be model as acting in both direction along the string. Imagine for example you help a piece of sting in your hands and pulled both ends, there is a force stopping both hands move further apart when the string is taught, so there must be a force acting on you right had to the left, and you left hand to the right :D

So what you need to ask is in which direction do you want the tension to be acting for the purpose of you question. In the question its says it exerts a pull on the kite, so the tension will be acting down the sting towards the person holding the sting, acting away from the kite, so it will have a negative y value and and may have a negative or positive x value depending on where the person is standing relative to the kite :D

That all said, most question wouldn't ask you to work out negatives and posatives, and they will simply want to know the magnitude of a force or the magnitude of its components, which are always positive :-) hope that helped

ps sorry if you knew most of that already, obviously I don't know what you already know :D
 
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