Ladder operators and harmonic oscillator

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Terms with unequal numbers of raising and lowering operators, such as AA†A†A†, have zero expectation values in the ground state of a harmonic oscillator due to the orthonormality of eigenfunctions. When a lowering operator acts on the ground state, it results in a state that is not physically permissible, as it falls below the ground state. The operation AA†A†A† transforms the ground state into a higher eigenstate, leading to integrals that yield zero when evaluated against the ground state wave function. The discussion emphasizes that the ground state cannot be lowered further, reinforcing that A|0> = 0. Understanding these principles is crucial for grasping the behavior of quantum harmonic oscillators.
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1. Explain why any term (such as AA†A†A†)with unequal numbers of raising and lowering operators has zero expectation value in the ground state of a harmonic oscillator.

Explain why any term (such as AA†A†A) with a lowering operator on the extreme right has zero expectation value in the ground state of a harmonic oscillator.

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Please help as I'm totally stuck with this. Does it have to do with orthonormality of different eigenfunctions?
 
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Yes it has, and also consider the ground state as the problem tells you to do.

what is the effect of A on |0> ? And what about it's dual? i.e. <0|A†

Now give it a try, star with your first operator AA†A†A† and tell us what you get and why
 
with AA†A†A† I get \psi_{}n+2. The first to terms convert \psi_{}n into different eigenfunctions. Because \psi_{}n is orthonormal to these eigenfunctions, these terms can be dropped from the integral.

Correct?


Also since the lowering operator is first to act on the ground-state harmonic iscillator, this takes it below the ground-state which cannot be allowed.

On the right track?
 
I have a hard tome to understand your language..

with AA†A†A† acting on the state to the right (remember that this is sandwiched between \psi^* _0 and \psi _0, the two first will give you \psi _2 so what is left is

\psi^* _0 AA^{\dagger} \psi_2

do the rest of the operation:
\psi^* _0 \psi_2
thus integral gives zero

And yes, you can't go further down with the ground state, thus A|0> = 0
 
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