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The problem involves deriving the Lagrangian for a cylinder rolling down an inclined plane, focusing on the relationship between translational and rotational motion. The cylinder's mass, radius, and moment of inertia are specified, and the generalized coordinate is the distance down the plane.

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the Lagrangian, with attempts to express kinetic and potential energy correctly. Questions arise regarding the representation of variables in terms of the generalized coordinate and its derivatives.

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Some participants have provided guidance on expressing dynamical variables in terms of the generalized coordinate. There is ongoing clarification about the moment of inertia and its relation to the cylinder's radius.

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Homework Statement


Write down the Lagrangian for a cylinder mass m, radius R an moment of inertia I, that rolls without slipping straight down an inclined plane which is at an angle a from the horizontal. Use as your generalized coordinate the cylinder's distance x measure down the plane from its starting point. Write down the Lagrange equation and solve it for the cylinder's acceleration.





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I tried to find the Lagrangian, this is what i have so far, is it right?
i said that T=1/2mv2+1/2Iw2
and U= -mgxsina so my Lagrangian would be
L=1/2mv2+1/2Iw2+mgxsina.
I think this is correct, but I'm not positive. If it is right then should i write I and w (omega) differently? and then continue with the partial differentiation?
 
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Everything is correct, except that you must express all the dynamical variables (v, w) in terms of x and its derivatives, as the problem tells you. Also you can explicitly specify the value for I, since you know the shape of the body.
 
so if i remember right v=x' but i am not sure what I and w are in terms of x and derivatives. doesn't I have something to do with R, the radius?
 
w is the angular velocity, which for non-slipping case is given by

[tex]\omega = \frac{v}{R} = \frac{\dot{x}}{R}[/tex]

and I hope you can figure out the moment of inertia I yourself.
 
I= 1/2 m R2?
Just checking before I go on with the partial derivatives.
 
Yes, for a uniformly filled cylinder.
 

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