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The discussion revolves around calculating the initial mass of ice in a cooking vessel containing water and ice at equilibrium. The mixture remains at 0°C for the first 50 minutes, then rises to 2°C in the next 10 minutes. Key equations include Q = mcΔT and Q = mL, with the heat transfer equations set to zero for equilibrium. Participants emphasize the importance of incorporating power into the calculations, as energy is related to power and time. The problem highlights the need for careful consideration of energy transfer during both the melting and heating phases.
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Homework Statement


A cooking vessel on a slow burner contains 11.0 kg of water and an unknown mass of ice in equilibrium at 0°C at time t = 0. The temperature of the mixture is measured at various times. During the first 50.0 min, the mixture remains at 0°C. From 50.0 min to 60.0 min, the temperature increases to 2.00°C. Ignoring the heat capacity of the vessel, determine the initial mass of ice.



Homework Equations



Q =mcΔT; Q= mL

cwater=4186
Lfusion=333000

Qhot + Qcold=0

The Attempt at a Solution


miceLfusin+micecwaterΔT+mwatercwaterΔT = 0

mice(333000) + mice(8372) + 92092 = 0

This gives me mice = 0.269kg but i know this is wrong. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
 
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During the melting phase all the energy goes into melting the ice (water stays at zero) so

Mice * Lfusion = Power * Timemelt

After melting during the heating phase..

(Mwater + Mice) * Cwater * ΔT = power * Timeheat

Two unknowns and two equations.
 
Thanks for the reply... I reworked the problem but I am still getting it wrong somehow...
 
ok now I got it... I mustve been doing something wrong with the calculations...how did you know to bring power into the formula?
 
What is the definition of power?
 
rico22 said:
...how did you know to bring power into the formula?

I started by writing out..

Mice * Lfusion = Emelt

but then you get stuck because there isn't enough info in the problem statement to calculate the energy and the timing information hadn't been used.

Energy is related to power using...

Power = Energy/time

or

Energy = Power * Time.

I made the reasonable assumption that the heater element delivered constant power.
 
ok thank you!
 

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