What are the possible values of a for the least possible length of latus rectum?

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The discussion revolves around determining the possible values of "a" for the least length of the latus rectum of a parabola defined by the equation y^2 + 2ax + 2by - 1 = 0. The equation is manipulated to find the relationship between "a" and "b," leading to the condition 1 + b^2 + 2ab = 0. The length of the latus rectum is expressed as a/2, prompting questions about the permissible values of "a." Participants explore whether "a" can be zero or if it can take values like 1 or 1/2, indicating a need for further analysis. The conversation highlights the mathematical intricacies involved in solving for "a" in this context.
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Homework Statement


If abscissa and ordinate of vertex of parabola y^2+2ax+2by-1=0 are equal then least possible length of latus rectum is

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The give equation can be rewritten as

\left( y+b \right) ^2 = -2a\left\{ x-\dfrac{1+b^2}{2a} \right\}

As given in question

-b=\dfrac{1+b^2}{2a} \\<br /> 1+b^2+2ab=0

Length of latus rectum = a/2
But what can be the range of values of a?
 
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utkarshakash said:

Homework Statement


If abscissa and ordinate of vertex of parabola y^2+2ax+2by-1=0 are equal then least possible length of latus rectum is

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


The give equation can be rewritten as

\left( y+b \right) ^2 = -2a\left\{ x-\dfrac{1+b^2}{2a} \right\}

As given in question

-b=\dfrac{1+b^2}{2a} \\<br /> 1+b^2+2ab=0

Length of latus rectum = a/2
But what can be the range of values of a?

You have "a" as a function of b, how about using that?
 
hi utkarshakash! :smile:
utkarshakash said:
1+b^2+2ab=0

well, a can't be 0, can it? :wink:

have you tried completing the square?​
 
tiny-tim said:
hi utkarshakash! :smile:


well, a can't be 0, can it? :wink:

have you tried completing the square?​

(1+b)^2+2b(a-1)=0

But how does this help?
 
a can obviously be 1

is it possible eg for a to be 1/2 ?
 
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