Leaving Materialism for a Friendly, Enlightened Life

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The discussion centers on a person's desire to escape a materialistic lifestyle in the U.S. and find a more enlightened, tolerant community, preferably in countries like Tibet, Nepal, or northern India. Participants suggest various alternatives, including Canada, particularly the Maritimes or Vancouver, while cautioning about the cultural differences and potential challenges in those regions. Some express skepticism about the suitability of Nepal and Tibet due to political unrest and dietary restrictions. Others propose Malaysia or northern Pakistan as potential destinations, highlighting the need for a friendly environment and access to vegan options. The conversation also touches on the Peace Corps as a way to experience a simpler lifestyle and engage with different cultures. Throughout, humor and banter emerge, reflecting the diverse opinions on the best places to seek a more fulfilling life.
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I have enough of living in this materialistic, money obsessed country (sorry if I offended anyone) and since I'm single without any finanncial obligation and with some cash saved ( 10 K) I want to move away from here to live between people who are more enlightened, tolerant,less violent and good towards animals.
I'm also vegan, so I guess there are not many choicess for me.Of course first in mind comes Tibet,Nepal,maybe northern India.
What do you guys think, where my suppose to go?
I can work in the fields no problem,just need roof over my head and food, but most important for me is to live with friendly people.
 
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stoned said:
where my suppose to go?
I can work in the fields no problem,just need roof over my head and food, but most important for me is to live with friendly people.
Why not give the 'Great White North' a shot? It's close enough culturally and geographically that it won't be a huge transition, but closer to what you're looking for. (There are some really terrific people and communities in the States, but you do have that government to deal with.)
Even though I'm an Albertan, I would actually recommend the Maritimes for a start. The people there are down to earth, friendly as hell, and half nuts. At least visit for a while to see if you like it. :smile:
 
If your going to Canada, I wouldn't recommend the maritimes, or at least not New Brunswick. New Brunswick is a farming province where people like meat and potatoes. I don't think you'd find the liberal, vegan paradise your looking for because we are quite Conservative. As a Liberal, Agnostic Atheist, Vegetarian, I sometimes feel like my rational beliefs ostracize me from others. I salute your veganism - I'm thinking of becoming vegan when I'm older, circumstances make it difficult. If you leave for Canada, my suggestion is Vancouver, but the cost of living there ... ouch.
 
Dooga Blackrazor said:
If your going to Canada, I wouldn't recommend the maritimes
Okay, you caught me. :redface: I was just trying to steer him away from me. How 'bout we compromise and stick him in Moose Jaw? :biggrin:
 
Danger said:
Okay, you caught me. :redface: I was just trying to steer him away from me. How 'bout we compromise and stick him in Moose Jaw? :biggrin:

lol! I wouldn't live in a place called Moose Jaw, but since he likes animals, maybe Moose Jaw is the ideal place for him. :approve: He'll probably be avoiding Canada now that he's seen our strange idea of humor, lol.
 
You should avoid listening to anything Dooga says about Canada, he has an irrational hatred of every province except Quebec.
 
You should scratch Nepal, Tibet off the list. The Chinese government has a way of making young Americians vanish. Remember in these countries you have no civil rights. These are places of great unrest right now. Plus they eat a lot of Yak and sheep meat..Ever try Yak butter tea? Not many veggies grow there.


finding a place that's enlightened, tolerant,less violent and good towards animals I would tend to look towards Borneo..malaysia. Warm, lots of fruits and veggies !
 
i meant to say non western countries,and i know usa,canada,europe very well
 
I like how people say they know Canada very well when they don't. Sorry dude, but I know you know **** about Canada.
 
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I live in Mississauga just outside Toronto.Ha Ha Ha !
 
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stoned said:
I have enough of living in this materialistic, money obsessed country

I can't say I have ever heard anyone say that about Canada.
 
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Don't move out of the U.S.
Move out of your state.(Which state do you live in? I could help)
 
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FredGarvin said:
I can't say I have ever heard anyone say that about Canada.
I say it all the time.
stoned said:
I live in Mississauga just outside Toronto.Ha Ha Ha !
JasonRox said:
I like how people say they know Canada very well when they don't. Sorry dude, but I know you know **** about Canada.
The Canadian Provinces differ a LOT between each other, BC, Maritimes, and the Territories are vastly different from the the central states (which are themselves different from the prairies) and each other, in both people and landscape.

That said, you can find 'nice people' anywhere in the world.
 
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stoned said:
I want to move away from here to live between people who are more enlightened, tolerant,less violent and good towards animals.
I'm also vegan, so I guess there are not many choicess for me.

Perhaps an uninhabited island somewhere? :-p
 
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stoned said:
I have enough of living in this materialistic, money obsessed country
You will that pretty much anywhere in the world.
stoned said:
first in mind comes Tibet,Nepal,maybe northern India.
What do you guys think, where my suppose to go?
No - too dangerous. Nepal has a problem with Maoist insurgents, who appear to be supported by the Chinese government - another proxy war.
stoned said:
I can work in the fields no problem,just need roof over my head and food, but most important for me is to live with friendly people.
Actually, northern Pakistan, particularly Hunzaland may be the place.
http://www.hunzaguidespakistan.com/northpakistan.htm

http://www.hunzaexperience.com/hunza.htm
 
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Hey Astronuc--like the new avatar. The old one always weirded me out a bit. Too many flashbacks to Jerry Rubin... :biggrin:
 
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FredGarvin said:
I can't say I have ever heard anyone say that about Canada.
After the 2004 election, was it 10,000 Americans that inquired about immigrating to Canada? Scared the hell out of the Canadians (even though these Americans just wanted to escape the oppression of the Bush regime :eek: ). You could be more neighborly.
 
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2CentsWorth said:
You could be more neighborly.
If you learn how to spell things like 'neighbourly' and 'colour' and 'manoeuvre', we'll welcome you as one of our own. (And it's zed, dammit, not zee.)

edit: As much as I love their music, I bet ZZ Topp never even considered how stupid their name sounds up here.
 
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Smurf said:
The Canadian Provinces differ a LOT between each other, BC, Maritimes, and the Territories are vastly different from the the central states (which are themselves different from the prairies) and each other, in both people and landscape.

Funny thing is I also lived in British Columbia, (beautiful nature there),don't want to go to Alberta and prairies-bunch of yahoos and drunken natives .Atlantic Canada has too many seal killers.
Quebec is the only province I would chose, and I respect French Canadians the most.
Someone sugested Malaysia,hmmm ? yeah ! Malaysia sounds good,just one question do they have weed there ? :wink:
 
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stoned said:
Malaysia sounds good,just one question do they have weed there ? :wink:
heh, YA THINK?
 
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I would say almost every place in the world has weed.
 
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Smurf said:
heh, YA THINK?

I hear BC has some kick ass weed,on my way to Malaysia I'm going to stop in BC and get super high,care to join me Smurf ?
 
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Nope, I'm clean now, intend to stay that way. You have fun though.
 
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stoned said:
Someone sugested Malaysia,hmmm ? yeah ! Malaysia sounds good,just one question do they have weed there ? :wink:

:rolleyes: If our former Malaysian member was to be trusted, drug possession is punishable by death there. But, hey, that's only if you get caught, right? :smile:
 
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oh ****, yes! :bugeye: i remember watching movie with nicole.kidman about two australian women who were smugling tiny bit of drugs into thailand or malaysia,they have got life sentences.
 
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Moonbear said:
:rolleyes: If our former Malaysian member was to be trusted, drug possession is punishable by death there. But, hey, that's only if you get caught, right? :smile:
Just a passing thought... you might want to change your name before you go.
 
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Danger said:
Just a passing thought... you might want to change your name before you go.


You are right, any suggestions ? I been thinkin about Ganja, Puff or Blow :smile:
 
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stoned said:
You are right, any suggestions ? I been thinkin about Ganja, Puff or Blow :smile:
I'm not sure just what the sexual mores are in that part of the world, but I suspect that those last two might get you into trouble in some neighbourhoods.
 
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How about spliff, or leño?
 
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They might not recognize Gagger over there.
 
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Moonbear said:
:rolleyes: If our former Malaysian member was to be trusted, drug possession is punishable by death there. But, hey, that's only if you get caught, right? :smile:


Its true, 15 grams of heroin and you're a goner (mandatory death sentence=no appeal). Murderes and traitors get off easier.
And malaysia aint no paradise, ("racial harmony" ,"tolerance", peaceful?)
bull****...
 
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and dun touch the muslim chicks... them religious police are scary...
 
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I am sorry, but this is an official message from the Malaysian secret police, please be prepared to be arrested at a later notified time.
 
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klusener said:
I am sorry, but this is an official message from the Malaysian secret police, please be prepared to be arrested at a later notified time.
We're almost ready. Hang on...

Quick, Moonbear! Bake us a cake. You know... the kind with the 'special' fillling... :wink:
 
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kaos said:
Its true, 15 grams of heroin and you're a goner (mandatory death sentence=no appeal).

That sucks ! I guess at least you guys have booze and smokes right ?
 
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booze is expensive (200%+ tax i think) but smokes are quite cheap (RM6.50=USD1.++ ) and no public drinking in Kelantan state.
 
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Danger said:
We're almost ready. Hang on...

Quick, Moonbear! Bake us a cake. You know... the kind with the 'special' fillling... :wink:

You're going to have to be a little more specific. I have a full menu of special cake fillings. Do you need something to sedate the police, to create a diversion, to entertain with, or to break out of jail?
 
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maybe a cake with a file in it...
 
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Moonbear said:
You're going to have to be a little more specific. I have a full menu of special cake fillings. Do you need something to sedate the police, to create a diversion, to entertain with, or to break out of jail?
I don't know the circumstances yet, so we'd better go for the 'Deluxe'. About 10 kilos of C4, a supressed Colt Woodsman w/ a couple of hundred rounds, some flash-bangs and smoke grenades, a bottle of Guervo... :rolleyes:
 
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hypatia said:
maybe a cake with a file in it...
Are you sure you're in Detroit? You don't seem very militant.
 
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Danger said:
I don't know the circumstances yet, so we'd better go for the 'Deluxe'. About 10 kilos of C4, a supressed Colt Woodsman w/ a couple of hundred rounds, some flash-bangs and smoke grenades, a bottle of Guervo... :rolleyes:

Okay, but the Deluxe is expensive. I charge extra for live ammo...hazard pay you know. Gotta keep the oven temperature just right, or else it takes me weeks to clean the cake off every surface of the kitchen, and the kevlar apron and oven mitts were pretty pricey too, so I need to recover some of that cost.
 
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Moonbear said:
Okay, but the Deluxe is expensive. I charge extra for live ammo...hazard pay you know. Gotta keep the oven temperature just right, or else it takes me weeks to clean the cake off every surface of the kitchen, and the kevlar apron and oven mitts were pretty pricey too, so I need to recover some of that cost.
Kevlar apron and mitts -- Wow, now that's a woman! :biggrin:
 
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Moonbear said:
Okay, but the Deluxe is expensive. I charge extra for live ammo...hazard pay you know. Gotta keep the oven temperature just right, or else it takes me weeks to clean the cake off every surface of the kitchen, and the kevlar apron and oven mitts were pretty pricey too, so I need to recover some of that cost.
Money's no problem. We have a little package that we can sell...

2CentsWorth said:
Kevlar apron and mitts -- Wow, now that's a woman!
She must have found out the same way I did about putting tuna in the microwave.
 
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Are you sure you're in Detroit? You don't seem very militant

smile, nod and winks. want me to make you a zip gun?
 
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Danger said:
She must have found out the same way I did about putting tuna in the microwave.
Yeah, you're supposed to take it out of the can first. :-p
 
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hypatia said:
smile, nod and winks. want me to make you a zip gun?
Got lots, thanks. I pretty much gave up on them when I hit my teens. I did come up with a very nice little deal that fires 18 rounds of 20mm HE/I armour-piercing and can be carried in a holster. (Really.):devil:

Evo said:
Yeah, you're supposed to take it out of the can first.
Then why didn't it say so on the label?
 
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Sir, please step up out of your seat and close your internet connection, we are going to take a little trip down to the station... :devil:

I am a police officer and you will respect my AUTHORITAAH!

p.s. (man that episode was one of my favorites, chicken fu:rolleyes:ker )
 
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Danger said:
Then why didn't it say so on the label?

*checks label on tuna can* Well, what do you know, it doesn't say that on the label. Well, that's just a lawsuit waiting to happen. It also doesn't say to not put the can in the microwave. How can they be so irresponsible as to not anticipate someone might try that? :smile:
 
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Moonbear said:
*checks label on tuna can* Well, what do you know, it doesn't say that on the label. Well, that's just a lawsuit waiting to happen. It also doesn't say to not put the can in the microwave. How can they be so irresponsible as to not anticipate someone might try that? :smile:
I don't know, but somebody is buying me a new oven.
 
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I understand the directions for heating pop tarts are quite extensive, so you may have a case.
 

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